Exact Looping

Ok... i was gunna post this in the Production Technique section but i decided to put it in here because i would think people would need to be informed on how to exactly cut a loop within a program and drop it into the 1k.

Question: How do i cut a loop to exactly 8 bars (or 4 or even 2) within a program like Sound Forge or Recycle? My example would be if i was to have a recording off of my turntables that i wanted to sample. The sample is just a rough idea and is surrounded by a couple bars i dont want. When i import the recording into Sound Forge i want to be able to cut the sample to EXACTLY 8 bars so that i can acurratly time stretch, pitch shift the loop or match tempo (on the 1k). Lately i have just been doing it by ear but this process is not exactly scientific. If there is any easier way to do this i would really appreciate the shared knowledge.

Thanks,
Profit1200

do it by ear....its the best way trust me. use the others only when u r sure about the time sigs and bpms, his makes things quicker aftterwards
and production technique would have been better for u.

Open your sample in Sound Forge
View Menu
Loop Tuner

Play with your start and end loop points in there and you'll
be fine, it will take some time to get used to though.

just to add leave a little on the the start and end for extra trimming in the mpc cause it dont like perfect cut loops for some reason.

i know you want to leave space at the end of a sample...but the beginning too? why? this is the first ive heard of this.

In acid it puts a small fade on the start and end of a loop so you leave a lil at the start and end so when you get it on your mpc you can trim out those fadesor whatever to get the loop to trigger right on point or whatever.

DOES THE MPC ADD SILENCE AT THE BEGINNING OF A SAMPLE AUTOMATICALLY? I KNOW IT DOES AT THE END AND THATS WHY YOU WANT TO LEAVE SOME MORE EMPTY SPACE AT THE END THERE SO THE LOOP DOESN'T SOUND CHOPPY...

SHOUTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

al i can say is, cut a sample perfectly in a sound editor and put in your mpc and see. especially if u BPM match it in acid. the BPM will never be spot on. so u will need to leave a bit more in the sample to edit on the mpc. plus its nice when u have that extra to play with just incase the loop aint right.