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By marino Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:01 am
system error then everything freezes up when trying to save.anyone with similar problems :( .any input appreciated thanks :lol:
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By TBonus76 Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:55 am
A while back, I was getting a lot of DIRECTORY ERRORs and then eventually started getting the SYSTEM ERRORs too. Then files started to disappear. So i connected the MPC to my PC using the USB cable, and noticed that when I looked at the properties of my MPCDISK, it was reporting that the drive (my CF card) was full. When I added up the total size of all the files on there though, it wasn't even half full.

Anyway, long story short, my CF card had a bunch of data corruption on it, so I backed it up (copied the whole thing to the PC) then I formatted the card (in the MPC), and copied all the files back onto it. That fixed the problem of the card being reported as full when it actually wasn't.

Then everything was going fine for a while... no more errors.

Then, inevitably, the errors started coming back. First, only DIRECTORY ERRORs, which I didn't think were a big deal since whenever I got them, I simply re-saved and it saved fine. But after getting DIRECTORY ERRORs for a while, the damn SYSTEM ERRORS and crash problem came back.

So my guess is that when you start getting the DIRECTORY ERRORs, you are actually getting file corruption. Then after you get too many corrupt files, thats when the SYSTEM ERRORs start up. I think it was being caused by overwriting files, since I was getting the errors mostly on the files I had overwritten the most.

Here's the solution I came up with.... I've posted it many times, but what the hell, here it is again. Remember to backup and reformat first so you can get rid of the corruption you already probably have, then use this saving method and you will avoid the corruption in the future. Since I started doing it this way, I have had no more errors. No DIRECTORY ERRORs and no SYSTEM ERRORs.

It looks like more of a pain-in-the-ass than it actually is... well worth it if you want to make sure you don't lose any more files or work.

tbonus 76 wrote:The method I have for avoiding the saving crashes, directory errors, system errors, and the new folder

bug involves "refreshing" the directory tree before creating the new folder. I was getting the errors

quite frequently, but since I started this "refresh" technique, I have not gotten a single error.

Here's what I do instead of overwriting:

1. In the SAVE directory tree, I move the cursor to the folder I want to save to and I hit RENAME, then

in the RENAME dialog I hit COPY. This step is only so that I don't have to re-enter the individual

letters when I get to step 5.

2. Close the RENAME dialog then delete the folder.

3. Close the directory tree. (At this point, if you go back into the directory tree, you will see

that, in fact, the folder you just deleted has magically re-appeared as if it had never been deleted.

Going back into the tree is not actually a step I take in the saving process, it is simply something

strange I noticed when I was originally troubleshooting it.)

4. Here's where the "refresh" comes in... So after closing the directory tree (step 3), you should be

back in the main SAVE dialog. Move the cursor up to the field at the top where you select where you

want to save (i.e. MEMORY CARD or INTERNAL MEMORY or HARD DISK if you have one). I then change the

option to INTERNAL MEMORY, and then I change it back to MEMORY CARD. That's the "refresh". Now the

directory tree correctly reports that the folder was, in fact, deleted.

5. I then hit NEW to make a new folder, then in the NEW FOLDER dialog I hit PASTE (since i copied the

name of the folder in step 1).

6. Then I SAVE ENTIRE MEMORY to the folder I just re-created.


I'm assuming this method would work for saving to the hard drive too, but I haven't been able to test

that since I don't have a hard drive installed.

As far as I can tell, it is the combination of not overwriting, and "refreshing" that has eliminated the

error for me. since I have been saving like this I have had ZERO errors. Give it a try and let me know

if it works for you.

I would recommend a backup and reformat if you have been having the error a lot because you probably

have some corruption already on the disk which could cause additional headaches later.


Hope that helps, and I hope AKAI can get their saving function working properly soon.

By marino Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:59 am
thanks will try i also have the hard disk