no zoning is killing me

I have been using the 1k since about january. It's my 1st MPC. I never has the zoning feature, but when I sample I use audition and recycle. But that takes so much away from my creative process. I'm thinking about selling it and getting a 2K just for the zoning feature. I love having my sample right there on the pad without having to mess around with that dam CPU. I'm I just gear lusting or do I have a legit reason to swtich to a 2KXL

i didn't know too much about the zoning feature until after i got my 1000 either. sometimes the workflow on the mpc1000 feels tiresome cause its pretty much designed with the idea that you're gonna be tied to a computer.
and no zoning feature is especially lame if you take your mpc around with you and just want to work on stuff where ever you may be.

in my opinion the mpc1000 by itself is kinda limited, but (again) with a computer its good.
just depends if you can get used to being tied to your computer.


but you also gotta way the cons of switching to a 2000xl. while the xl is dope as hell and i am not knocking it, there are some let downs if you are used to the 1000 and switch. i work at a used music store and lately i've ended up being the person that tests all the mpc's that come through the store before we buy them. the load up times are WAY different. felt like it was taking forever to load up samples.

and the storage on an 2000xl made me hold off on buying one for forever. having to deal with finding scsi zip drives or cd burners seems like a nightmare since the computer industry has been phasing scsi stuff out in favor of usb or firewire devices. and thats just more money to throw out, along with the additional outs if you want them.

and obviously the 1000 is more computer friendly. so you gotta way in how your workflow might be affected when you DO want to edit samples from your XL on the computer.

i dont know. dont mean to ramble, and if you were to choose to go for the xl that would be a good choice too. if just depends if you are more computer oriented.



i dont know how you go about working on the 1000, but i've been the most productive by...

just sampling a bunch of records at one time on my flash card (i'll spend a couple hours), then throwing the card in my cheap ass usb card reader (if you dont have a card reader you should invest in one, they are like $10 or $20 and make working on the computer alot less tiresome) and finally chopping them in recycle all in one sitting.

then i just do all the program placements for all the samples on the computer, save all the files on the flash card and throw it back in the mpc.
i usually spend a couple hours sampling a rack of stuff, chopping, and doing the program placements. then i usually have like a weeks worth of samples to mess with. when i feel i've exhausted them, i just start the whole process over again.

basically i do almost all the computer back and forth stuff at one time for a couple hours. then for the next week i have plenty of stuff to work with.

these are just some suggestions that made my life easier. either way you go about it you will be making a good choice. i'd just say mess around on an XL for a while before you make your final decision to see if you are into it.


ok i'm finally done.
good luck.

although i sjtu got my mpc i hat ethe fact that there is zoning out there somwhere but i did my research before i bought it and decided i could de4al with usign my computer instead of the slow load up tiems with zoning , eveyrthings got its + and - you jsut gotta deal thats being creative by getting by with the boundrys, but eyah liek the man said i also do lik an hour or two of chopping up arranging ym smapels then put them on the mpc then am good for a while.

^^^Most typos in one post award!!!

Anyway, punch drunk, I use your method. I need to invest in a card reader tho like you said because its hard as **** to keep moving my MPC back and forth to the computer....

Nygh wrote:^^^Most typos in one post award!

lol

is no one using the 'Extract' feature? Just record your sample directly in the mpc, in the 'Trim' screen select what part of the sample you want to use (like if its a drum loop, chopping it up so you have each hit on it's own pad), once you've set your locate points in the Trim screen, hit 'Edit' and where it says 'discard' move your jog-wheel till it says 'Extract'.

works fine for me.

ngyh: yeah , for how cheap the card reader is its definitely worth it. at least to me. so much easier than moving my mpc, switching to usb mode,hooking up the cord, waiting for the computer to recognize the usb connection....etc.

for me the card reader is much easier. just take the card out and throw it in the card reader and your done. and the best part is that if you had been working on something on the 1000, when you take the card out you can still use your mpc. if you are just transferring files to your computer and its taking awhile you can still use your mpc with whatever files you had loaded in. made life much easier for me. way more convenient than i thought it would be when i was at the store buying it.

actuel: yeah i know about the extract feature. its just that the zoning feature makes life so much easier to chop up a phrase into seperate samples. so much quicker than doing them one by one. if i'm doing like one single chord hit off a sample i might use extract, but if its gonna be numeroues samples i'm just better off using recycle.

Did everyone in here actually pay for ReCycle?...seems like many people have the program...and it seems like its the most efficient for chopping...BUT i just don't want to drop $200 on something I will only use for one feature...so whats the deal here...peace

Yeah I payed for my recycle. I only paid like 100 bucks though. I bought it with reason 2.5 in a combined deal. Don't cheat the software compainies. They will just recope there loses on us the end user

could just be me, but i found that the zoning feature often required a fair bit of manual trimming anyway and wasn't really that useful or time-saving...

One question I got is....setting the start and end points in trim mode. It takes like 500 trial and errors for me!!! Is there an easier way?

I remember seeing in the book somewhere about how many points = 1 second. I cant find it anymore....can someone help?

The sample rate that the MPC 1000 uses is 44.1kHz or 44100Hz. The very unit has your answer . 1Hz = 1/second.

44100 samples/second x 1 second = 44100 samples

stephen wrote:The sample rate that the MPC 1000 uses is 44.1kHz or 44100Hz. The very unit has your answer . 1Hz = 1/second.

44100 samples/second x 1 second = 44100 samples

nononono Im talking about in the trim mode. The start and end points.

I'm pretty sure the numbers in trim mode are the sample numbers. So if you wanted to start your sample at 1 second, and end at 2 seconds, you'd set start to 44100 and end to 88200.

or am I still missing something?

big_m wrote:although i sjtu got my mpc i hat ethe fact that there is zoning out there somwhere but i did my research before i bought it and decided i could de4al with usign my computer...

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