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By ThundaKatz Production Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:31 pm
I've noticed on the HeatMakerz beats, all they basslines WANG. Does anybody kno how to get a bassline on the 1000? or wat to use??

By graynote1 Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:18 pm
all right man 30 people checked your post out and nobody wanted to reply... i was thinking the same thing and then i thought naaah you just sound like a you need a little (or really big) push in the right direction... NOT trying to be rude so don't take offense but the way you posted your question and the subject of your question itself is going to turn peoples heads away...

basslines can come from anywhere... vinyl, software programs, synths, you dropping a bassline into a mic and then f*cking with a filter you throw over it... it all depends on your interest and style of beat that you're going for... i like sampling old jazz records for that nice and gritty double-bass sound... often times i'll tune it way way down and have this deep low bass sound that pounds the speakers... or i'll chop up many different segments of one cats double-bass solo and mix and match a whole new bassline... check out different things and see what you can piece together... again, whatever fills your boots right?

By pad-ophiliac Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:46 am
low pass filter
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By bhunt Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:57 pm
I can tell that they usuall use a synth bassline, there are a few wav samples around that have the synth keys C and F and you can use those to make a multi sample. Then yes the low passfilter would be next to take out the hi's, then you would want to add some distortion, like the bit grunger to it. Just a tad don't over do it, then top if off with compression.

By The Beat Conductor Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:04 pm
This is the keyboard that they use...

ROLAND JUNO-D

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By morgan Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:41 am
The Beat Conductor wrote:This is the keyboard that they use...

ROLAND JUNO-D

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Arrrrgghhhh!

It's burning my eyes!

Why'd they have to call it a Juno?
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By punkdISCO Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:21 pm
"Why'd they have to call it a Juno?"

Yeah! I can't imagine how many people have totally dismissed this keyboard as a piece of junk, just because of this awful and crude marketing ploy.

By all accounts, it does sound like a reasonable keyboard. Okay very basic and very far removed from being regarded as a serious keyboard, but it certainly has a place. But WHY did Roland try and associate it with something as far removed as a Juno?!
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By distortedtekno Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:37 pm
punkdISCO wrote:"Why'd they have to call it a Juno?"

Yeah! I can't imagine how many people have totally dismissed this keyboard as a piece of junk, just because of this awful and crude marketing ploy.

By all accounts, it does sound like a reasonable keyboard. Okay very basic and very far removed from being regarded as a serious keyboard, but it certainly has a place. But WHY did Roland try and associate it with something as far removed as a Juno?!

Unfortunately, Roland will never go back to manufacturing true analog synths anymore. Alot of people wanted the TB-303 to go back into production, but Roland's answer was that they will not go backward in time and would rather focus on new technology (virtual analog). But alot of people are very dissapointed in virtual synths, since they never come close to the originals. The SH-32, MC-09, MC-303, MC-505, VariOS, and the Juno-D are perfect examples of not-so-perfect emulation. DSP technology still has a long way to go before it can truly emulate anolog synths 100% (if that's even humanly possible), in my honest opinion.
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By punkdISCO Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:44 pm
"Unfortunately, Roland will never go back to manufacturing true analog synths anymore."

I dont share your view on this. I think it is almost inconceivable that Roland and all the other big boys are not currently working on true analogue synths but for the 21st century. Over the last 5ish years there has been a massive rise in cottage industry analogue synths.

Synth sales are only 10%(!) from what they were 10 years ago so these guys are feeling it hard. In the meantime new analogue synths are springing up all over the place, typically costing a fortune, yet still selling.. I would bet a small fortune on the fact that Roland etc want some of this action seeing as their digital synths are selling in such low volumes..

The last synth I bought cost £2225 (approx $4000). It plays one note (monophonic) but its analogue. I am happy to pay $4000 for a monophonic analogue synth but I would never pay $600 for the 64 note poly/16 parts Juno D, or indeed any other rompler.

"Alot of people wanted the TB-303 to go back into production, but Roland's answer was that they will not go backward in time and would rather focus on new technology"

Sure, redoing the 303 would be a step backward but this is entirely different to producing another analogue synth or range of synths. Besides, there are countless modern day 303 clones out there and if Roland did do another 303, it would still be regarded as just another clone and not the genuine article.

Cool topic btw.. See you,

By elmacaco Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:27 pm
Dude, if roland reissued the TB-303 for real I'd be all over that. If they could make it for 300 using the same technology as the original, maybe adding midi, oh man I'd be all over that.
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By punkdISCO Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:13 am
For sure, a Roland reissued 303 would be great. However, there would still be comparisons with the original and people would still stay 'its not as good' (even if it is). Also the market is really saturated with 303 clones, a few of which also have the all important sequencer. Many of these claim to have copied the original component by component yet still there is something missing. One of the main contenders is probably the Future Retro Revolution - a really great machine but it is not as smooth. Still sounds great though. I have the fr777 which is a kick-butt synth..

http://www.future-retro.com/REVOLUTION.html

Look at the minimoog Voyager. It IS a 21st century minimoog but some people still dismiss it (usually people that have never used one).

My 303 has midi (amongst other mods) and its not just a crappy internal midi/CV converter like all the current kits. Mine is a midi to CPU interface so the synth is still played via the 303's CPU which is very important for the character. Furthermore, it has a midi out which is awesome. Again, the out is from the CPU so if you record a 303 pattern in say Cubase and then play it back into the 303 it is exactly the same.

http://www.colinfraser.com/mb303/index.html (these pictures are of my 303)

[Final bit of gloating!] My 303 is actually the second 303 in the world to have a midi output! The first was the designer's prototype (Colin Fraser - a friend of mine). After designing the kit on his own 303 he then needed another 303 for the step-by-step photos which is where mine came in.
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By keio Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:42 pm
Hey punkd! that was a really cool thiing with the 303 midi upgrade, i was also blown away with the p3 seq he is doing, what a great looking item!!

About 303 mods, can he make some more tricks?

thanks