FRUSTRATED WITH AKAI!

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By Lampdog Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:33 pm
rebel_lion wrote:Try sampling in mono you will have more to work with. Stereo takes up more memory than mono.

Yep. Use stereo samples when there is stereo info in the sample that you need to have in there. Other than that, mono.

BenHoughton wrote:maybe also try figuring the parts of the sample your actually going to use and sampling that, instead of just getting in the whole 90seconds of crap first

Yep, learn to sample EXACTLY what you need, just a bit before and a bit after. Chop what you need from that and the chooped off parts will be commited back to RAM.

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By DR SAMPLE Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:01 pm
Got my 2 GB Compact Flash and 256 MB Kinston ram upgrade today.

Voila my problem is solved :D Yay for me!

I'll take the advice about the management of my samples i.e. using my sample time more wisely.

Meant no disrespect with my post as I was just venting a little frustration I was having with Akai.

For the amount of money we dish out for their MPC 1000 it should come fully upgraded and wrapped in a bow.
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By SHWELL Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:30 pm
*This post is for any new peeps, the sampling limitations can def be worked with/around...

1. If you sample off of Vinyl Rec at a higher speed (If the record is a 33rpm, then use 45rpm)

2. Use Software to sample and convert. I use Audacity for this on occasion. With the right setup you cansample from a tt into audacity, or just drag and drop an MP3. Chop it, convert it to wave,and then only take the bits you want and load them into your MPC... This way, you only have what you need.

Think outside the limitation and make it work for you. There are enough ways to work around the limitations to make you exp with an out of the box MPC a very enjoyable one.....
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By Menco Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:28 pm
But still, if u use more then 16mb of sampling memory for one track...Or u must be composing 20 min. symphonys, or a 3min track contains like 2 minutes of sampeled loops.

And doesn't Akai support only ram upgrades up to a 128MB with the 1K?

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By xibalba1875 Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:50 pm
Menco wrote:
And doesn't Akai support only ram upgrades up to a 128MB with the 1K?


why would you need more?
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By Menco Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:52 pm
I don't need more. 16mb was already enough for me when I had a 500. When I bought the 1K, it had the 128mb already. I only need the extra RAM when I resample complete songs when I need a quik 2 track version for on my I-pod, or when I'm digitalizing old vinyl records.
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By Menco Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:13 am
Akai released it in 1988. It had 750 kB memory standard, expandable to 1.5 MB. The sequencer is very flexible and powerful, famous both for its "swing" setting, and its easy to use step programming. It had 2 MIDI inputs / 4 MIDI outputs, allowing it to control up to 64 devices. The sequencer itself was offered as a separate product, known as the ASQ10, also released in 1988. The MPC60-II was nearly identical to the MPC60, but it featured a headphone output, and a plastic case, instead of the metal case of the original. It was released in 1991.

Thank Akai on your bended knees they kept up with the times.

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By ONE Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:48 am
16 MB is plenty. I have the upgraded RAM. I tell you...it's enough to do a whole song...literally. Check my myspace. I did a remix to a RZA song for a contest. You'd think I put the vocals in a DAW and tracked out my beat and mixed everything properly than bounced it all. Nope. All that, including the vocals were all done in the 1k...I had just enough room. All I did was record the main outs in my DAW.

The fact that I can do that on a 1k says a lot. These machines are very capable. The beat itself didn't use up that much RAM...it was the vocals that did. Anyone who says a current MPC is too limited to do anything with, whether the memory has been upgraded or not, doesn't have their head on straight.
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By thedvs01 Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:49 am
Menco wrote:or when I'm digitalizing old vinyl records.


why would you be using your MPC for that?
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By Lampdog Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:43 am
Menco wrote:or when I'm digitalizing old vinyl records.

That's not what an mpc is designed for.

Respect it's design and capabilities and you'll get
more out of it.

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By Tillonius Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:50 am
Yeah, it just takes a little sample management. Depending on how you use the mpc, that 16mb won't be enough...wav audio take up a crapload of space (16mb stock is laughable). I think that some frustration comes, not from how much ram you need, cause I can definitely make do with 128mb. At the same time, though, I think if I pay $1000 for a piece of equipment it better have more memory than what I need. Its true you don't need great amount of space to make hits, but at the same time this isn't 1988, why should I be held back by the limitation of gear back then?

since ram prices are going down steadily, future machines should be coming with loads of ram for the price tags on em.
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By Menco Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:20 am
By digitalizing I mean I want to be able to listen my vinylcollection on my I-pod.
Not for having them on my hd to chop up later. I know it's not designed for that, and it may be unusual. But it's just a kind of lazyness. Because my dj mixer is hooked to my mp 24/7, for me it's easier than rewire everything and record everything in the computer. I tryed it once, and I just liked the sound. So I decided to do that way ever since.
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By nicebeats1 Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:34 am
Lampdog wrote:
Menco wrote:or when I'm digitalizing old vinyl records.

That's not what an mpc is designed for.

Respect it's design and capabilities and you'll get
more out of it.



word!
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By Lampdog Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:02 am
Menco wrote:By digitalizing I mean I want to be able to listen my vinylcollection on my I-pod.
Not for having them on my hd to chop up later. I know it's not designed for that, and it may be unusual. But it's just a kind of lazyness. Because my dj mixer is hooked to my mp 24/7, for me it's easier than rewire everything and record everything in the computer. I tryed it once, and I just liked the sound. So I decided to do that way ever since.


I understand, that 's cool.

Tillonius wrote:Yeah, it just takes a little sample management. Depending on how you use the mpc, that 16mb won't be enough...wav audio take up a crapload of space (16mb stock is laughable). I think that some frustration comes, not from how much ram you need, cause I can definitely make do with 128mb. At the same time, though, I think if I pay $1000 for a piece of equipment it better have more memory than what I need. Its true you don't need great amount of space to make hits, but at the same time this isn't 1988, why should I be held back by the limitation of gear back then?

since ram prices are going down steadily, future machines should be coming with loads of ram for the price tags on em.


16mb isn't useless, hits can still be made on 16mb. No one said you have to stay at 16mb, but it's not useless and you can still make hits on 16mb stock no matter how much stock ram you think you deserve.

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By Tillonius Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:50 pm
^^^notice I said "depending on how you use it". hits were made using 16mb or less, he's not necessarily making those hits. As versatile as a machine the mpc is, I'm confused as to why some people think everyone should work with as little resources as possible.

my argument wasn't that 16mb was useless, cause it's not. but, if you could have more ram in the unit, would you turn it down?
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