MPC1K vs FRUITYLOOPS

Yo, Yo Fruity Loops is the s***t dawg, I swear ! Piano roll ....wut ! Hot baby.... Hot !!! MPC 1K aint got nothing on Fruity Loops... I'm trying to tell y'all !!! Yo F**k them MPC heads mayn! .....yo, when you selling your MPC ? You better sell it quick.... holla at me.. I know someone that would buy it... PM me ...!!!

I've made bangers on both FL Studio and the MPC... I can say that it's easier coming up w/ melodies on FL... but at the same time, it's easier doing drums on the MPC... and it's easier sequencing my samples in PT or Cubase...

All I'm saying is... once you get out of using the "Band in a box" approach to beatmaking, you'll even out your workflow. Software/Hardware makers are only making it easier thru Midi syncing and ReWire to use every product for what it's best at. That's not to say to go out and spend every dollar you have on new equipment... work with what you have... but add to it as you go...

They are really different, I could never say one was purely better.

Just look at how different it is to play a melody on a keyboard or drum pad, compared to clicking on a grid with a mouse. Its a totally different head space, guaranteed you'll get different type of results.

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...but, I'll tell you one thing, to jam with my friends and try to improvise some beats, while people r freestylin...

i don't want to be f'in with a mouse at that point, you know ?

Imagine when the mc tries to name check you , the dj, and its one thing 'on the wheels of steel' , or even 'on the mpc' (that's what i get).. but come on, 'on the mouse??' 'on the fruity'? lmao.

I guess that will change in the future once we get better designed music pc's, with drum controller etc-- like, if they made a laptop with a tiny screen, tuff small case, and drum pads instead of a keyboard.. could be best of both worlds. (yeah i know 'but that's an mpc', well the point is you could run different software.)

Like you could try a muse receptor together with a trigger finger or something.

But wow I'm just rambling now.

My thoughts on FL is, it's a very good piece of software. i find though with fruity as well as with reason and live that everyone who has it, has the same sounds you have. that's why i deleted and don't use the sounds that came with my 1k. so with that said, i have to load all my sounds in the 1k and i can load those same sounds in FL. If i had an mpd16 or m-audio's trigger fingers connected to my computer, i can get the same out of fl than i can with the mpc. me personally, i rather use an mpc and reason as my sound module, sequence that in the mpc and track everything to nuendo.

FL5 is much better than any other FL versions. you can do alot more with it. but i will never put the mpc down. it all depend on the mood i'm in to make me use FL, reason, live or the mpc.

i agree with everyone who said it's not the equipment/software but rather how you use it.

TFunk13 wrote:Once you get an MPC1k and learn how to use it you'll forget all about FL Studio.

WORD THE **** UP!

I guess it also depends on what kind of music you're trying to make. If you want to make some sort of trance/acid-house or really nonthreatening nelly stuff...FL is probably the way to go. That said, I bought an MPC and got away from computer sequencing because I make music by actually *playing* the music. It's about how you feel it and how you integrate yourself into the music. That's hard to do sincerely with a mouse and some math.

-Brian

keneiel wrote:Now when i first starting making sample beats all i had was a standard pc with fruityloops on.
i was making beats in fruity and i got gud at it, i made a lot of bangers, but after a wile i wanted to "up" my game. Then i started thinking about getting an mpc1k.
Any way i fanally brought one thinking its the next step, but i discovered it was like a hardware version of fruityloops, but fruity was obviously more advanced.
I got da mpc for a number of reasons
1. I could get away from da computer screen,
2. Avoid having so much blisters after using da mouse all day an night,
3. more accurate music and use of less equiptment

and many more

ive had an mpc1k for 6 months now and ive fallen in love with it,
the feel, the look, and most of all the size and capabilitiyalong with that "mpc1k" sound.

but after 6 months assessing my beats, plus other people telling me.
I found out that, what i had made on the mpc1k over the past 6 months was no were not as hot as what i was making on fruityloops,
i tryed to ignore it cos i simply love ma mpc1k but i couldnt no longer when 3 people in 1 week critised me saying i havent made any big tunes yet on the mpc and all the best tunes i ever made was in fruityloops.

so this weekend i went back to my pc and jump on fuityloops,
having everything at my disposel unlike the mpc1k, it took a wile to get back into the nature but when i finished i had created a bangah.

so im gonna start using fruityloops again,
and the mpc will cover for fruityloops flaws and vice versa

but on the overall i think 80% its all about fruityloops
and the other 20% MPC1K

dude, you're just like me.

but soon you'll realize you don't need to choose which one you want, just
go by the one you feel like at the moment. and soon you'll realise an
important fact that i did too when i got back to fl:

FLStudio doesen't support really low bass sounds

now that's a problem. take a 808 long kick and play it 16 levels. now
do the same thing with flstudio and you'll loose the sound about
3 levels down. and this is a clean sound, of course you can pump the
sound with multiple effects such as compressor and maxxbass.

but i still think the flstudio is much better for making complex songs and
really controlling what you do. for me the percentage is something like
65/35.

i hope youre not getting those blisters by just clicking stuff in FL. you know you can use a midi keyboard or pads (i.e: your mpc) to make your melodies, all you gotta do is hit the record button then play. now there are things that FL does which makes things much more convenient than doing it on the mpc 1000. for example, an mpc 1000 lacks the auto-chromatic, FL has this, that could be why youre prone to making "better" material with it. Personally, i think the mpc 1000 is the more fun machine to work with so what i would do is buy a SoftSampler such as Kontakt2 or MachFive (both run standalone now if im not mistaken) and use it with your mpc as if it were a soundmodule. that will make up for anything the mpc 1000 lacks and then some and it has sick editing/filtering/sound libraries.

Before I got my 1K I was using Acid 4.0. I made my best beat in Acid, but I took me days to construct a simple beat. The first week I owned my MPC I made a dozen beats. (Of course they weren't that good yet.) And I'm not making fire yet. But I will if I keep working at it. Face the facts you have to step up your game, that's why you bought your 1K. If you always only use FL or Acid, you will never step up your game. Force yourself to stick with your 1K. Buy a turn table, keyboard and more. Use Cubase, PT and Reason...or your going to be a FL person forever. You don't want to be that, do you bro?

i must admit, some production tools can have you limited to a certain degree.
for example, depending on how open minded you are, you would use a program like FL and never realsie that you could use sampled drums and incorporate them.. ok I know its a weak explaination but take this to antoher level and think, sometimes the way a tool looks, can look as if it can only do so much, i suppose what I'm refering to is everything has limitations.

production tools such as an MPC or FL or Cubase etc, all have limits and can hinder your progression in many ways...

more to the point, MPC vs FL threads are a waste of time and does not require public opinion, because there are to many variables, and you will never get the answer you want. you the producer knows what you want to do, so be like nike & JUST DO IT, FL or MPC or what ever...

it if works for u then good...but lets talk about something more constructve than these silly debates about the war over software and hardware based production systems.