
By seatown350
Tue May 23, 2006 5:09 pm

By Antonym
Tue May 23, 2006 5:11 pm
i normalize a lot, be it a sample i just pulled off a record, a drum hit i recorded digitally from my computer, or a final mix that i just limited and wanted to raise up proportionally a couple db
By jigginz
Tue May 23, 2006 6:33 pm
Antonym wrote:i normalize a lot, be it a sample i just pulled off a record, a drum hit i recorded digitally from my computer, or a final mix that i just limited and wanted to raise up proportionally a couple db
Yes, do not be put off by normalizing. As Antonym has rightly put, it is an indespensible tool especially for final mixes. It does not mess with the dynamics as suggested in a previous post. It simply raises a recording to its optimum level 0db without changing the dynamics.
By orjanbeats
Tue May 23, 2006 7:14 pm
What makes you think that 0 dB is the optimal level for a recording?

By Mr modnaR
Tue May 23, 2006 7:42 pm
well the maximum peak in the total waveform should be at 0db to ensure that you get the most out of the dynamics of any system that the track will be played on.
By jmartone
Tue May 23, 2006 7:45 pm
patalinda wrote:i bring my beat to the computer like this -
i record every single track to my computer
I put the "Click" on REC+PLAY, then the MPC will click before a sequence starts,
the i record each track with the clicks on my computer.
after all tracks are in the computer i simply select each track from the first click and cut the **** to the sequencer tempo . so dats it .
hope you all understand what i mean i'm a bit tired this morning so hope my english was not too bad
This is the right way to do it. Patalinda I'm trying to learn how to do it this way. IE. I want all my tracks to be seperated. Do you record it to Pro tools? What do you set your output to, and why are you so concerned about the click? Why even record with the click?
By third_south
Wed May 24, 2006 5:01 am
orjanbeats wrote:What makes you think that 0 dB is the optimal level for a recording?
is that a serious question?
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By third_south
Wed May 24, 2006 5:03 am
why are you so concerned about the click? Why even record with the click?[/quote]
I think she's using the click to align her tracks together... ?
I think she's using the click to align her tracks together... ?
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KRK Rokit 5 Monitors + sub
Phonic SupremeDI A6200
2 x Dbx 266XL Comps
EL7 Fatso
Presonus FP10 Firepod
Vista 4 GB ram
Mbox2 Mini
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Roland Fantom Xa
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By orjanbeats
Wed May 24, 2006 5:31 am
third_south wrote:orjanbeats wrote:What makes you think that 0 dB is the optimal level for a recording?
is that a serious question?
Yes, because 0 dB is not the optimal level. You gotta have som headroom, even though some of the cats in here are saying "you need to use the absolute most of your dynamic area". That's just not right. Anyway, you can't increase the signal/noise ratio and using more of your dynamic are by normalizing, you have to increase the signal while recording and while the signal is still analog; normalizing after a recording isn't gonna help sh1t. And you should have about 6 dB headroom in your recordings/mixes/whatever, that means recording at -6 dB and NOT normalizing.
By MidnightFlyer
Wed May 24, 2006 6:19 am
jmartone wrote:patalinda wrote:i bring my beat to the computer like this -
i record every single track to my computer
I put the "Click" on REC+PLAY, then the MPC will click before a sequence starts,
the i record each track with the clicks on my computer.
after all tracks are in the computer i simply select each track from the first click and cut the **** to the sequencer tempo . so dats it .
hope you all understand what i mean i'm a bit tired this morning so hope my english was not too bad
This is the right way to do it. Patalinda I'm trying to learn how to do it this way. IE. I want all my tracks to be seperated. Do you record it to Pro tools? What do you set your output to, and why are you so concerned about the click? Why even record with the click?
I record to pro tools one track at a time in order to separate each and put each on is own fader, with plugins. I start by recording the click on its own track, and then record everything to that.
need to nudge here and there when done, but by having the click recorded, it's easy to see visually where the notes lay.
It takes more time this way, but it allows you to make any changes in the future.

By Mr modnaR
Wed May 24, 2006 6:45 am
orjanbeats wrote:third_south wrote:orjanbeats wrote:What makes you think that 0 dB is the optimal level for a recording?
is that a serious question?
Yes, because 0 dB is not the optimal level. You gotta have som headroom, even though some of the cats in here are saying "you need to use the absolute most of your dynamic area". That's just not right. Anyway, you can't increase the signal/noise ratio and using more of your dynamic are by normalizing, you have to increase the signal while recording and while the signal is still analog; normalizing after a recording isn't gonna help sh1t. And you should have about 6 dB headroom in your recordings/mixes/whatever, that means recording at -6 dB and NOT normalizing.
naturally what you are saying is true, i was talking about the final mix. maybe i got confused as to what was getting normalised, but when you have additional headroom when your track is finished, then it's just wasted space, which you would do well to utilise. of course, the more talented among us would mix so as to utilise the headroom in the first place, saving the need to normalise, so i guess we don't need this function!

By patalinda
Wed May 24, 2006 2:01 pm
jmartone wrote:patalinda wrote:i bring my beat to the computer like this -
i record every single track to my computer
I put the "Click" on REC+PLAY, then the MPC will click before a sequence starts,
the i record each track with the clicks on my computer.
after all tracks are in the computer i simply select each track from the first click and cut the **** to the sequencer tempo . so dats it .
hope you all understand what i mean i'm a bit tired this morning so hope my english was not too bad
This is the right way to do it. Patalinda I'm trying to learn how to do it this way. IE. I want all my tracks to be seperated. Do you record it to Pro tools? What do you set your output to, and why are you so concerned about the click? Why even record with the click?
i record it in cubase, set the output of the mpc to full level cuz u can mix it better after that. if u have your tracks in the computer normalize them at -3db.
the click thing: is meant to get the tempo for all tracks the same it will only be heard the first bar before the sequence starts

By patalinda
Wed May 24, 2006 2:02 pm
MidnightFlyer wrote:jmartone wrote:patalinda wrote:i bring my beat to the computer like this -
i record every single track to my computer
I put the "Click" on REC+PLAY, then the MPC will click before a sequence starts,
the i record each track with the clicks on my computer.
after all tracks are in the computer i simply select each track from the first click and cut the **** to the sequencer tempo . so dats it .
hope you all understand what i mean i'm a bit tired this morning so hope my english was not too bad
This is the right way to do it. Patalinda I'm trying to learn how to do it this way. IE. I want all my tracks to be seperated. Do you record it to Pro tools? What do you set your output to, and why are you so concerned about the click? Why even record with the click?
I record to pro tools one track at a time in order to separate each and put each on is own fader, with plugins. I start by recording the click on its own track, and then record everything to that.
need to nudge here and there when done, but by having the click recorded, it's easy to see visually where the notes lay.
It takes more time this way, but it allows you to make any changes in the future.
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