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By sumedho Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:11 am
Yeah they are the chips themselves. So I am presuming that each chip would have this part number on it. You can put these chips on any type of package...i.e. 168pin or 144 pin ram.

So I am assuming if u could find a ram module with the following:

each chip: 4 x 4Mbit x16
4 chips on the ram module: organized in 4x32Mbytes
clock freq: 133MHz with CL3

Maybe it would work. Best thing would be to get something with the same chips on it. Hopefully AKAI hasn't added some obscure memory check in the software of the mpc.
By Roopesh Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:25 am
when you've spent all those $$$'s or £££'s on a new MPC 1000...

why take the shortcuts.

treat a quality product with some class guys.

if you cannot afford the official 128 akai ram...then save up and get it.

dont take the risk of using cheaper generic ram to screw the new baby later down the line.

its like getting a new £200,000 Bentley and then putting in cheap supermarket floor mats inside.

just buy the real ram...you wont regret it.

and to be honest until you outgrow the actual 16mb ram inside...theres no point in adding more.

just out of interest...does that 128 add on top of the 16mb ram.
By 52ftBuddha Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:50 am
Get a grip, it is a less than $1000 musical instrument. Understanding of the memory config will aid us in understanding how to hack the hardware for more than the 128meg currently accepted. Also most of us just dont like being fleeced. We English call it rip off Britain for a reason you know, we are tired of being taken advantage of in retail. Akai is taking a liberty.

Rob
By Roopesh Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:53 am
suppose.

By Insectpossewillbecrushed Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:13 pm
sumedho wrote:clock freq: 133MHz with CL3

My bad...looks like the site I took the spec for the Hynix part from was wrong. Based on sumedho's research we want PC133 notPC100 RAM...although they'd normally be interchangeable in a PC situation (and supposedly are in the 4000) I'd rather be right on the money with this. Similar deal for CL2 vs CL3 (most systems won't care, but the 1000 might be picky). According to an earlier post from richard, this PC133 CL2 RAM from Crucial didn't work.

So, theoretically, any 144-pin 128mb stick of PC133 CL3 SDRAM should work. The only problem I can see would be if Akai have designed the 1000's OS to not recognize RAM when SPD doesn't provide a serial number within a certain range.

Edit: deleted info about wrong kind of RAM...
Last edited by Insectpossewillbecrushed on Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:50 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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By aaron_bliss Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:21 pm
Insectpossewillbecrushed wrote:
sumedho wrote:clock freq: 133MHz with CL3


So, theoretically, any 168-pin 128mb stick of PC133 CL3 SDRAM should work. The only problem I can see would be if Akai have designed the 1000's OS to not recognize RAM when SPD doesn't provide a serial number within a certain range.
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hold on one min... I thought it was a 144 pin SOD pc 133???

:roll: :?: :cry: :?: :? :?: :? :?: :oops: :x :?:

By Insectpossewillbecrushed Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:36 pm
aaron_bliss wrote:
Insectpossewillbecrushed wrote:
sumedho wrote:clock freq: 133MHz with CL3


So, theoretically, any 168-pin 128mb stick of PC133 CL3 SDRAM should work. The only problem I can see would be if Akai have designed the 1000's OS to not recognize RAM when SPD doesn't provide a serial number within a certain range.
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hold on one min... I thought it was a 144 pin SOD pc 133???


Oh shit...you're right...I got 168-pin in my head and have been looking for that all day.

Ahhhh bollocks.
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By aaron_bliss Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:37 pm
can we just try to get an exact idea of what we are looking for? exact specs , how many pins? cl3 or cl2? and so on...

By Insectpossewillbecrushed Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:49 pm
As far as I can tell, it should be...

144-pin
128mb
PC133
CL3
Un-buffered
SDRAM

All PC133 compliant RAM should have a small EEPROM chip on them to provide for SPD, but a seller won't always note of this. PC133 or PC100, CL2 or CL3 shouldn't make any difference, but may be a problem (for example, this one didn't work...the only difference I can see is that it was CL2).

SpD

By 52ftBuddha Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:08 pm
Having briefly looked over the intel spd spec it seems a great deal can be read about the module from this function. Data width, latency, cycle time number of modules on the assembly. In total in lists 39 items of reported data that are required. If I am taking this correctly it could indicate that the memory module would have to mirror the Akai requirement completely. If I was Akai that is what I would do, crafty devils.

Rob

By richard Sat Jan 24, 2004 2:39 am
its not crafty is shhitty - its like spiking a car so you can only use one brand of petrol. I guess I can wait about 2 weeks before I give into Akai and buying the fukking stuff from them... I'd be really happy to find another source though

Richard