Wrong File !! Error. When loading from CF Card...Anyone?

Jgray wrote:I agree with your responses bliss and effekt, akai definitely needs to get their sh** together with customer help. This thing is really pissing me off, I've got all these samples ready to go, but can't load em up. I guess I'll just have to record straight in from my table and chop them up in the mpc. Any other ideas you guys have? Thanks

how long have you had it? can you return it? if you do so, or call akai and get the # to the VST to send it back I guess.

I would say work with the help desk, ask for Nick, if he sucks ask for someone else. try to fix the issue with them over the phone.

If that isnt working ask for the VST to have them test it.

"A"

DO NOT buy your compact flash card from Best Buy.

This was my experience:
me: I need a Compact Flash Card, Type 2
sales guy: here you go (hands me a sandisk card off the rack)
me: but it says "type 1" in small print right there!
sales guy: hold on, let's get someone
other sales guy: yeah, that'll work fine. type 2 are pretty rare and have to be special ordered. type 1 and type 2 arethe same anyway, except for speed.
me: if I open it and it doesn't work, can I return it?
osg: there's no reason it wouldn't work.

These guys must get paid on comission or something, it pissed me off.

I left and started researching cards online-- Type 2 cards are 5mm thick and Type 1 are 3.3mm thick. I did more research and found this:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006HWZ5/qid=1075414662/sr=-1/ref=sr__1_etk-audio-video/102-7530259-2539314?v=glance&s=electronics&n=1065836

which is exactly what I want - a type 2 card, 1GB, perfect for fitting my live set plus lots of misc. kits, spoken samples, textures etc.

I'm going to order it today and I'll let everyone know how it goes.

As for the .wav format problems I have no idea. I've loaded mono and stereo wav's off of my computer without a problem. I'm using the stock 32mb card that came with my mpc.

alright, just got off of tech support with akai (the only way I got ahold of them by the way was to call the corporate office about 5 or 6 times). They said 'this is the first time we've spoken to anyone that has had a problem loading .wav files into any of the mpc's' Ha!!! right. Anyways they said the only thing that they've tried wavelab on a pc. That's it. They never tested Pro Tools, Logic, Cubase, Peak, Spark, Digital Performer, or any other program. Not to mention any programs on a mac. When I asked them if they could, they simply stated, well I'd have to hook up the mac, and that could take a while...a few days later, they still haven't hooked it up, nor did they give me any reason to belive that they would any time soon. I also spoke to Digidesign, and they said that the only program or hardware that the .wav files don't work on is some little program in the pc that I've never heard of. Allright, so what is the truth!? Are they too cheap to spend the time to test their products with the industry standards before the ship, do they depend of the first buyers to be beta testers, have they had problems all along, and are straight out lying saying that I'm 'the first'. Sorry...I'm pissed as well...

Now my last step is to install bias peak export the files with that, then try importing it into the 1000. If that doesn't work than I'm returning the mpc 1000 and getting my money back, the bastards. Anyone use an editing program on a mac that creates .wav files the the mpc 1000 can recognize out there? -Brant

P.S. Aaron or Tigervomit...did you try those files yet? Thanks for the help.

P.S. Jgray...is that you Tsidi? Or a different JGray?

That's why I'm coppin the Roland MV-8000 I'm tried of dealin wit all this problems AKAI be bullsh!ttin they tell ya anythin to keep ya guessin!

Thanks for your opinion labworkz, but the roland sounds different, and this is mpc-forum anyways. Right now I hate akai just as much as you my man...

"Wrong File !! Error. When loading from CF Card...Anyone?"

I just had this same problem today, I was saving from Audition to the 1000 and it said wrong file when loading it up. So then I just tried saving a copy(instead of just saving) under another name and it all worked. I've also had a bunch of USB problems. Annoying as hell.

I had the "Wrong File" message as well with what should have been Windows PCM WAVs converted (from AIFF) using a small audio editor that relies on Quicktime for conversion. In the end I found that the best way to ensure compatibility was to use MpcPgmMaker ($20 shareware) to convert files to WAV when creating PGMs.

Are people experiencing this issue with a Mac or PC (or both?). I'm not 100% sure where the problem lies, but it has to be something to do with the different subclasses of files that use the WAV extension (PCM and ADPCM - more info here).

I am using mac and when using quicktime 6.5 for export it works fine. Export settings are wave with no compressor. There are a lot of different compressing schemes for wave files, that some programs (and hardware) don't understand. To quote:

The WAVE format is sort of a bastardized standard that was concocted by too many "cooks" who didn't properly coordinate the addition of "ingredients" to the "soup".

and this:

I don't even want to get into the totally irresponsible proliferation of compressed formats. (ie, It seems like everyone and his pet Dachshound has come up with some compressed version of storing wave data -- like we need 100 different ways to do that). Furthermore, there are lots of inconsistencies, for example how 8-bit data is unsigned, but 16-bit data is signed.

If I make samples in a program called Soundstudio they will not open on the mpc! So I have to convert everything using quicktime.

Try opening the sounds in quicktime and then exporting them as wave files. That should do it.

if you are on PC.

then >
go to Start > Programs > Accessories > Entertainment > then 'Sound Recorder' (the basics of basics!!!)

in the 'Sound Recorder'...open or insert your wav samples, and re-'save as' 16-bit 44.1 PCM Wav.

this may fix it.

remember at the end of the sample it should be .wav

Example: shaker.wav

also keep characters short for samples.

First off, I want to thank everyone helping out. I had no idea that I'd get this big of a response! Sumedho, thanks for the info on quicktime, I'm trying to get 6.5 now. Good luck with the mpc program maker you're working on if it's you...that leads me to mpc program maker (the $20 one) That thing...I want to be positive...but...only 1/4 of the samples actually load up on that thing. My roomate tried to do it with his mpc 2000xl and had the same problems. I love the idea, but it's not really efficient when only a small portion of the pads actually go through. I just did a whole series of test with 2 of the same sounds on pro tools, logic, and peak. Of them... the mpc did not recognize any of the files exported from pro tools. And with logic 1 worked, and the other didn't. And with peak the same thing (and with peak I tried it with both the auto file type extensions checked and not checked-when it was checked neither of them came up in the mpc.)That leaves me to belive that it may have something to do with the data written with the file(date stamps, etc...) I don't know...So I kind of got excited with Peak and tried out about 10 samples (it goes without saying that they were 16 bit mono .wav files). Of them the mpc read 4 out of 10. I will now try quicktime with the same 10 files and see what happens. Keep in mind all of these samples when imported into the program all play fine and say that they are 16 bit mono .wav files. Ahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

sumedho wrote:If I make samples in a program called Soundstudio they will not open on the mpc!

Yep, that's the program I was talking about. It's handy for chopping up WAVs and AIFFs, but the formats you can convert into are limited. I picked up a copy of the MpcPgmMaker, and that does the conversion from SND and AIFF automatically when creating a PGM.

brant wrote:I want to be positive...but...only 1/4 of the samples actually load up on that thing.

That PgmMaker doesn't appear to handle file names of over 8 chars (I guess because it's designed for the 2000xl). I have been re-using a lot of old 2000xl kits, so I only actually noticed this when I tried to create a kit using samples from Hollowsun.

yes, yes I know this. All the audio files that I tried were only 4 letters. I even experimented with numbers/caps/non-caps. And yet, still only a quarter of the pads transfered to the mpc 1000. (and mpc 2000xl for that matter.) Have you actually used it with success? Do you really incorporate it in your method of making music? What program do you use to edit and convert the audio? On a mac or pc? what os? etc...

oh yeah...let me re-itterate...when I spoke to akai, they didn't even have a mac hooked up in the tech support office!!! Can you belive that?!?!??!!
So maybe the audio file from a pc work great (as well as MPCprgmMaker) but not always on a mac? Anyone? anyone??!!!