New black mpc 1000 has new pads inside [Updated w/Pics]

im already making my clay bomb..

this is like unbelievable!??!!!!?!?!

i'm kinda thinking of selling my blue mpc with jj os and 128 mb and buy a new black one with new pads... i mean if i buy new pads itll cost 200 dollar and i could hopefully sell my mp for around 800 or 700.. so it would kinda like be the same price :S

I'm very upset right now. Had I known this was going to happen, I would have just sold my blue 1K and bought the new one instead of putting the money into upgrading. F**K Akai.

Antonym wrote:either master-ceo just got lucky OR it's true. i'm willing to bet it's true.

in other news, ceo, how do you like them? feel good, don't they? or better, at least. i'd still like a softer rubber, as long as that doesn't sacrifice corner hits.

Actually my brother, I like the feel but I don't like the feel.
Rubber feels great.
You actually get a better feel of the pad. Unlike the old pads thats hard in the middle and has spoungie feeling in the corners.
The new pads a have a WELL ROUNDED feel. The whole pad interacts when compressed.
The pads seem to work better on the 2.11 os for now, but still highly usable in JJOS. And i'm still testing. I'm running 4.87 btw. And I only tested in 2.11 for about an hour or so. Ya'll got me hooked on JJ.

I think I just gotta get used to the way they are.
I miss notes somtimes tapping on full level with PAD sens @ 16 in JJOS
I seem to do better when leaving my finger on it and tap other than hovering over. make sense?
I can only see like 8-40 tapping with full level off with PAD Sens @ 16

Question: This is my first Brand New MPC1000 other than my 500.
Do PADS have a brek-in period? This 2000 style design gets better over time right. It feels a little clumbsy like my MPD 24 did at first but now thats perfect. And the MPD has the same design.

I think once JJ hooks up the Threshold in the OS, they will be perfect tho. IMO

God works in mysterious ways, because I was gong to by the Upgrade for my blue one, because the #2 Pad is going.
Nobody has in-stock. They are advertising that they have it, but DON'T!
buyer beware.
So after getting frustrated with 2 diff companies we know.
Akiai is also out of stock, saying they didn't manufacture enough brackets or some bs like that and it will be like 2 weeks. blah blah blah!
I had a brain spazzam and reacted with my wallet being drawn and $995.00 being spent on a Brand NEW 2007 model MPC1000 with the NEW PAD sytem already installed to my suprise.
Thank you Akai.

I'm e-mailing Akai right now to confirm

side-note: has anyone considered contacting the Better Business Bureau or organizing a class-action lawsuit?

These both seem to be very possible things to do.

i think I just gotta get used to the way they are.
I miss notes somtimes tapping on full level with PAD sens @ 16 in JJOS
I seem to do better when leaving my finger on it and tap other than hovering over. make sense?
I can only see like 8-40 tapping with full level off with PAD Sens @ 16

i feel you. remember, i'm that pad man!

i'm amazed that you have a hard time reaching above 40 w/ pad sens at sixteen. i have to put some effort into it, but i can always get it up to 127 no sweat on mine.

however, i bet i know how to fix your problem. it's as i mentioned before, using spacing material on top of the rubber to push the pads down, closer to the sensor. it's a science, though - go too far and you'll get ghost notes and stuck notes, neither of which you want.

however, my mpc is a little modded already (face place all bent up) which works to my advantage - the grid frame that goes around the pads is pushed in (down, into the mpc) so it acts as a force to push the pads closer to the sensor as i mentioned!

i'll come up with a good solution for the home diy dude though that will help with the low values problem. then jj will step in eventually too.

dvs - i've thought so much about a lawsuit but the fact is that i don't feel like investing MY time. however, i would certainly lend technical support, ie a write up of the scenario, description of the problem, etc etc etc. just keep me away from all the legal stuff cuz it's over my head.

Antonym wrote:dvs - i've thought so much about a lawsuit but the fact is that i don't feel like investing MY time. however, i would certainly lend technical support, ie a write up of the scenario, description of the problem, etc etc etc. just keep me away from all the legal stuff cuz it's over my head.

I'm waiting to hear what Akai tells me in their e-mail. If they are truly manufacturing new 1000's with the pad upgrade already installed and then selling them for the same price as they always were, then I think a class action lawsuit would stand a very good chance at holding up in court.

Also, has anyone tried to get the pad upgrade under warranty yet?

I can understand them wanting to charge for users who are out of warranty (although the 180 price tag is ridiculously high considering the situation) but users with broken pads should be able to get new ones under warranty it would seem.

Anybody here got any lawyer friends and a lot of spare time? (I never actually bought my 1000 new, so I really have no room to **** about things from a legal standpoint)

thedvs01 wrote:I'm e-mailing Akai right now to confirm

side-note: has anyone considered contacting the Better Business Bureau or organizing a class-action lawsuit?

These both seem to be very possible things to do.

I would contact the bbb but I got mine used and have opened it many times so I dont know if mine would be a good case. If anyone wants to contact the bbb (I think it would be alot easier than a lawsuit) then go here. It's worth it.

Antonym wrote:

i feel you. remember, i'm that pad man!

i'm amazed that you have a hard time reaching above 40 w/ pad sens at sixteen. i have to put some effort into it, but i can always get it up to 127 no sweat on mine.

however, i bet i know how to fix your problem. it's as i mentioned before, using spacing material on top of the rubber to push the pads down, closer to the sensor. it's a science, though - go too far and you'll get ghost notes and stuck notes, neither of which you want.

however, my mpc is a little modded already (face place all bent up) which works to my advantage - the grid frame that goes around the pads is pushed in (down, into the mpc) so it acts as a force to push the pads closer to the sensor as i mentioned!

i'll come up with a good solution for the home diy dude though that will help with the low values problem. then jj will step in eventually too.

Oh yes Iknow. I'm a big fan of yours. I watched your videos and suscribed!
I'm pretty handy like you, Soldering, take apert put toghether the right way type, but lack the MPC knowlege you have.
I'm willing to help in anyway. JLMK.

The response of the pads are def not as responsive as the old ones under jj. I gotta bang it through the tabe to get near 100.

thedvs01 wrote:I'm e-mailing Akai right now to confirm

side-note: has anyone considered contacting the Better Business Bureau or organizing a class-action lawsuit?

These both seem to be very possible things to do.

Early buyers of the Iphone got $100 rebate after the price drop.
I don't see why Akia cant sell it a little cheaper than $199usd. Should be like a $79usd Upgrade IMO.

No hate to buyers of the new 1000 with the new pads but this is straight BS...How is Akai billing the new pads as an "Upgrade" to current 1K owners but including it as the standard to new owners..
It would be one thing if they charged 1199 for new 1k's with the pad"upgrade" but they are not.Its still the same price as the original blue box price...
If these new pads are a so called Upgrade then why is Akai going to charge current owners for them but put them in new boxes without extra charge?They should at least offer some kind of exchange program..

THEY'RE A FUKKING CORPORATION THATS WHY!! Because it's costing them money to make new pads, they're thinking it's a smart idea to charge us existing 1000 owners who aren't under their warranty.Thats their stupid money making strategy.I called Akai Pro today and talked to some dude who actually denied that the old pads were faulty.He said that they have worked for years since they first came out..My throat hurt too bad to argue but i was furious.He actually stated himself that all MPC 1000's from now on will be made with these new pads.I'm not mad that the new MPC 1000's are still $1000.At least they are now doing the right thing they should have done a long time ago.But i am mad at the fact that they are still trying to make money off of us when we bought our MPC's thinking they were going to give us a quality product.ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS **** EM!I wish i could sue their asses but then once they're bankrupt we won't have anybody to buy professional shite gear from.[/b]

hahah man. what a fiasco they've gotten themselves into.

juxstaman is dead on, absolutely, 100% correct.
how do they call it an upgrade, charge it as an upgrade, then include it default in all new products?

and Mr E, they have blathering sock puppets answering the phones. don't waste your breath on them. salud

MisterE wrote:I wish i could sue their asses

You can

"In law, a class action or a representative action is a procedural device used in litigation to determine the rights of and remedies, if any, for large numbers of people whose cases involve common questions of law and/or fact."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_action

All it takes is one person to start one

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You can

"In law, a class action or a representative action is a procedural device used in litigation to determine the rights of and remedies, if any, for large numbers of people whose cases involve common questions of law and/or fact."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_action

All it takes is one person to start one

Yeah it would be nice to see some justice served.I mean there are hundreds of people who will testify that their pads failed.Honestly though, i think i'm done going to court for the rest of my life.I have to disagree with some of you guys though and say that i wouldn't think it'd be fair if they brought the price up on new 1000's.WHY SHOULD THEY?The only reason they are charging us almost $200 for new pads is cuz they know we'll pay it.The brand MPC 1000's should of had working pads in the first place.Now that they are not manufacturing the old pads anymore, it's not costing them much more to manufacture the new ones.Thats probably why its still $999.Plus i don't think it would be fair to new users to pay extra for working pads even though we had to go through it and pay the price.Lets just be happy we finally have working pads and that we can continue making music.