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DJDREW wrote:I finally got to see a 4000 up close and in person and that sucker is huge LOL

right!


what up drew?

aside from 4 midi outs and tilatble screen i really am not seeing a need to get the 2500 just yet...in the future ie 1-2yrs i probably will

the additional outs won't help me since my current audio interface only has 2 ins...i am looking at the mbox2 but even then i wouldn't be able to make use of the additional outs

cd-drive?...i see no point...may be you can tell me how you have been using yours

tiltable screen....cool....but its not gonna make me switch just yet

grid edit...never used it on an mp or pc so i really don't know if i would like or even how i'd use it

pretty much everything i felt the 1k lacked will be answered by the new os
plus they added $hit that i thought they never would

i think i'd be better served by investing in another module and better audio interface

one thing i would cop in a heart beat is a smaller battery (rechargeable) operated mpc...akai where you at...i want to see the "sp-303 killer"...akai where you at...sparq get on the horn and tell them boys to get on it...that joint would sell something ridiculous

I was basically refering to having 2 MPC 1000s vs an MPC 2500.

First, I would never base buying anything on a reported OS update that hasn't materialized just yet, regardless of the source of this information. The reported OS update for the MPC 1000 will finally give it functions that were already present on the MPC 2000XL with very few additional functions. And all the projected features of the OS update are already in the MPC 2500.

Yes the adjustable LCD screen, additional MIDI OUTs, and additional balanced OUTS may not be of any use to you with your set-up, but they are there if you or anyone needs them. As far as the CD/DVD drive, you can use it for sampling from audio CDs as well as loading samples from commerical CD Roms. You can also load sample files burned on CD-R/DVD-Rs. There is a projected future function of actually burning CDs but since since it is not available with the current 1.00 OS, I wouldn't factor that into any argument.

We will have to wait and see if the 2500s Chop Shop (Patched phrase, auto slice), Continuous sample track, Direct Recording to track, will make it to the MPC 1000.

A feature that I have found useful on the MPC 2500 (not sure if the MPC 1000 can do this as well) is the ability to assign LSB/MSB to each track for external sound modules. These bank change functions will allow you to select the patches from any bank in externally sound modules directly from the MPC. All of this without having to touch your sound module. This is my favorite 2500 function that I have been begging for years for an MPC to have.

So just speaking for myself...there is not one reason why I would have two MPC 1000s when I can own an MPC 2500 for about the same price.

I would imagine...if the MPC is your main machine...and you run everything off of it (as opposed to a computer) ...the MPC2500 would be the machine to get. If you use alot of other equipment, and yoiur MPC is just a piece of the greater puzzle...get the MPC1000. I don't see the sense of getting the MPC4000 these days...though I'm sure some have their reasons.

jahrome wrote:

A feature that I have found useful on the MPC 2500 (not sure if the MPC 1000 can do this as well) is the ability to assign LSB/MSB to each track for external sound modules. These bank change functions will allow you to select the patches from any bank in externally sound modules directly from the MPC. All of this without having to touch your sound module. This is my favorite 2500 function that I have been begging for years for an MPC to have.

ooooh $hit....i forgot about thatt...i remember you posting that a while back...that feature is dope, no questions about it

thanks for the input mayng

jahrome wrote:Just sell both of the MPC 1000s while you can get some decent money for them and cop that 2500....a much better unit as far as OS, added features, and hardware. Even with a new OS, the the 1000 will not stand up to a 2500.

jahrome, the OS is IDENTICAL with the exception of chop shop and grid edit, continuous sample track and direct recording to track. you keep talking about the 2.5k's os is better. i know for a fact of what i'm talking about. i am using the new OS for the 1k and i've been around the 2.5k.

chupacabra wrote:one thing i would cop in a heart beat is a smaller battery (rechargeable) operated mpc...akai where you at...i want to see the "sp-303 killer"...akai where you at...sparq get on the horn and tell them boys to get on it...that joint would sell something ridiculous

R&D is working on something to rival the 404. although it may/may not see the light of dat until probably this time next year, at best.

jahrome wrote:First, I would never base buying anything on a reported OS update that hasn't materialized just yet, regardless of the source of this information.

this is not speculations. like i said, i am currently using the new OS, look at the videos.

Jahrome wrote:And all the projected features of the OS update are already in the MPC 2500.

that's the whole point of why ppl will not spend the money on the 2.5k just yet, if they already own a 1k.

Jahrome wrote:A feature that I have found useful on the MPC 2500 (not sure if the MPC 1000 can do this as well) is the ability to assign LSB/MSB to each track for external sound modules. These bank change functions will allow you to select the patches from any bank in externally sound modules directly from the MPC. All of this without having to touch your sound module. This is my favorite 2500 function that I have been begging for years for an MPC to have.

this is on the new OS, look at the videos.

sparq wrote:

jahrome wrote:First, I would never base buying anything on a reported OS update that hasn't materialized just yet, regardless of the source of this information.

this is not speculations. like i said, i am currently using the new OS, look at the videos.

Jahrome wrote:And all the projected features of the OS update are already in the MPC 2500.

that's the whole point of why ppl will not spend the money on the 2.5k just yet, if they already own a 1k.

Jahrome wrote:A feature that I have found useful on the MPC 2500 (not sure if the MPC 1000 can do this as well) is the ability to assign LSB/MSB to each track for external sound modules. These bank change functions will allow you to select the patches from any bank in externally sound modules directly from the MPC. All of this without having to touch your sound module. This is my favorite 2500 function that I have been begging for years for an MPC to have.

this is on the new OS, look at the videos.

shizzam!.....sheeeeit thats dope

sparq quote:
jahrome, the OS is IDENTICAL with the exception of chop shop and grid edit, continuous sample track and direct recording to track. you keep talking about the 2.5k's os is better. i know for a fact of what i'm talking about. i am using the new OS for the 1k and i've been around the 2.5k.

There..you said it. They are not identical if they are missing these features Thus the OS is better...not saying that the OS is more efficient or anything of the sort. More useful tools equals better in my book as long as it doesn't have any bugs. No use looking at the 1000 videos since you already told me that they are 'identical'. I would only be slightly interested if the 1000 if it had an exclusive feature/function.

But as you are talking about the OS..the 2500 is on OS 1.00b. There is no telling what Akai has in store for it. As I stated earlier, I don't see any point in owning two MPC 1000s when you can get the 2500. If catz have an MPC 1000 and are happy with it..they can continue to do they thing. But if you don't have an MPC or looking to upgrade, jump on the 2500. It is a better MPC not a scaled down version of another MPC.

I know you have the new OS when no one else does. It really doesn't matter until the other folks that bought the 1000 get their hands on it as well. There must be a reason for the delay in releasing the OS I guess everyone else will get it one day when Akai irons out the kinks or sell as many of the 2500s as some have hinted/speculated (us 2500 users already have the suped up OS ).

Akai working on another low end MPC?? Numark, what are you doing to this company? I thought it was called Akai Professional As a business man, I can see their plan. Tease catz with these scaled down models...and tempt them with the highend models once they got their feet wet.

But as far as the MPC 2500 and 1000, I can't see why anyone wouldn't save up an additional $600 or so and get the 2500 now.

Yoshimi wrote:
I would imagine...if the MPC is your main machine...and you run everything off of it (as opposed to a computer) ...the MPC2500 would be the machine to get. If you use alot of other equipment, and yoiur MPC is just a piece of the greater puzzle...get the MPC1000. I don't see the sense of getting the MPC4000 these days...though I'm sure some have their reasons.

Sort of disagree with you here. If someone has alot of gear (I am one of those) the MPC 1000 is not even an option. I use the MPC 2500 as my main sequencer...I have all my keyboards and sound modules connected to it. The MPC 1000 would not be able to effectively handle these chores as well as the MPC 2500.

rah...... suttin seems out of place....like suttin dont belong...damn what could it be???...damn...oh well....

jahrome wrote:

But as far as the MPC 2500 and 1000, I can't see why anyone wouldn't save up an additional $600 or so and get the 2500 now.

come on mpc hustla...i would think even you know that you can get a mpc 1k w/ 128 mb ram for $600 with relative ease...i copped my second joint for $465 and all it needs is $10 dollars worth of buttons to be functionally perfect...actually its functionally perfect now, its just that a few of the buttons are cracked and i wish to replace them

i got my first 1k brand new for $800 from GC...thats half the cheapest price i've seen the 2500 go for...

the 2500 is dope...no doubting that...and if it was $1200 dollars, i'd have some thinking to do...but as it stands, i have two machines that do about 90% of what the 2500 does for less dough than your one machine

yours looks better though...i won't argue that

until i can fully use my 6 outs, i ain't phuckin with 10 outs...same goes for the 4 midi outs

I would go ahead and get that MPC 2500 for $1600 while you still can

If your are concearned with functions and prices....a $500 MPC 2000XL is a better solution than a 1000 (as it is today).

Ok..I guess I haven't sold you on the 2500..but you still need 2 machines to pull of what the 2500 does...only 90% as you say. But you still have time to sell them for a good price (its the holiday season you know). You will only have to add just a little more do that to get the 2500 and you won't be visiting the forums or Akai's website looking for the new MPC 1000s OS to be released. Just a thought

Peace.

jahrome wrote:
Sort of disagree with you here. If someone has alot of gear (I am one of those) the MPC 1000 is not even an option.

And why is that? Cause of 2 midi out ports?
I can't think of any other reasons.

Yes. Because it has only 2 MIDI OUTPUTS like the MPC 2000/2000XL. This is one of the reasons (not the only) that I used the MPC 3000 for some many years until it was replaced recently with the 2500. Yes, you can use the MIDI THRU functions of your synths to chain as many as you like, but this is less than ideal for me. Having the 4 MIDI OUTs (MPC 60, MPC 2500, MPC 3000, and MPC 4000) is a must for a unit to be considered my work horse MPC.