1000 is not capable

you guys are funny. how many of you actually even touched older 12 bit samplers like the sp or the 60? i bet most of you base your judgments on hearsay and sound clips/tests on the net. of course they all sound similar. everything sounds like sh it once it's compressed to mp3. egos aside, when you hear the sound come out of this thing, it stirs up something inside. forget what the listeners will think. the instrument has to inspire the artist to squeeze something out of it. jimmy hendrix probably could shred on any guitar, but there is a reason why he chose his favorite. 1k does not do that. keep convincing yourself, 12 bit emulation is as good as the real thing, when you dont even know what the real thing sounds like. 1k is capable without a doubt. is it special tho? would akai have made it so flimsy if it was meant to be banged on at professional level. meaning reliability and top notch sound quality. if it sounds nice, you dont have to rely on gadgets and features youll never use. ha 60 users get as much hate, just because its old. and yall probly assume, people still use it for the hype. if anything 3k is the most overrated.

peezie wrote:you guys are funny. how many of you actually even touched older 12 bit samplers like the sp or the 60? i bet most of you base your judgments on hearsay and sound clips/tests on the net. of course they all sound similar. everything sounds like sh it once it's compressed to mp3. egos aside, when you hear the sound come out of this thing, it stirs up something inside. forget what the listeners will think. the instrument has to inspire the artist to squeeze something out of it. jimmy hendrix probably could shred on any guitar, but there is a reason why he chose his favorite. 1k does not do that. keep convincing yourself, 12 bit emulation is as good as the real thing, when you dont even know what the real thing sounds like. 1k is capable without a doubt. is it special tho? would akai have made it so flimsy if it was meant to be banged on at professional level. meaning reliability and top notch sound quality. if it sounds nice, you dont have to rely on gadgets and features youll never use. ha 60 users get as much hate, just because its old. and yall probly assume, people still use it for the hype. if anything 3k is the most overrated.

ok, so are you saying that the 1000 is inferior then? I would have gone with a Roland Product if its ease of use factor was high. But since my experience dictates otherwise I decided my hard earned cash would be better invested with this product instead. Plus the support factor thru community is better with the MPC than the Roland stuff.

What am I saying, if the Roland was easier to use I prolly would have gone that route just because it seems like I could have been more creative with their product. But because 1 I didn't like the way it sounded and 2 learning to use it is way harder than the any of the MPCs I have worked with.

A buddy of mine bought an MC-909 and support on how to use it just was not there like it is with the MPCs... Now he wants to get an MPC...

Are you suggesting that the 2500 is more professional than the 1000?

im not saying its inferior or superior. theyre good at different things. sometimes less is more, sometimes not. people need to see it for what it is. dont compare apples with oranges, especially if youve never tasted oranges. i see 1k users big uppin theirs because its human nature to. everybody wants to think theyre the best. is the bass guitar inferior because it has 2 less strings than a guitar? theyre different instruments. ealier synths including moogs were monophonic with no midi. i dont think theyre any inferior than modern synths. when you start depending on features, thats when the instrument's playing you. not the other way around. part of reason why i think technology killed music. music is a primal instinct. ever notice there arent too many virtuosos in modern music. nobody wants to take time to practice. everybody wants to program it in and get it perfect without any practice. when its too perfect, human element is eliminated. blah..

i have owned a number of older samplers. some 12 bit, an 8 bit, and several 16 bit. out of all the mpcs, the 1000 so far is the best of them all that i have owned. thanks to jj. and 16 bit sounds better than 12 or 8 bit.

peezie wrote:im not saying its inferior or superior. theyre good at different things...

Right... If I had room to own it all I would... it's like having tools in a toolbox. You can't build a house with just a hammer or just a table saw...

gotta have tools...

Hamzter wrote:

peezie wrote:im not saying its inferior or superior. theyre good at different things...

Right... If I had room to own it all I would... it's like having tools in a toolbox. You can't build a house with just a hammer or just a table saw...

gotta have tools...

THATS IT!!!!! im gonna go buy some airtime on PBS and start my own show...

"This Old Sampler" once that show steps off, im gonna start up another show and get antonym and sparq to be hosts... "Ask This Old Sampler" you'll be able to write in and maybe just maybe they will show up at your bedroom... i mean studio door with new tips and tricks and answers to all those questions.

You can either hammer the same type nail into wood with 15 hits or you can pound that b*tch in with 2 hits. Its all in how you swing your hammer!

if anything 3k is the most overrated.

Why do you say that?

alien_brain wrote:^^^ thats what i thought too.

the 2500 is an obvious upgrade for the size and extra hardware but i wouldnt say any other mpc has any sound advantage on the 1000.

i disagree, imo the 3000 has a very clear sound advantage over the 1000 because the ad/da converters deliever a much warmer sound and the 60 has the best sound of the all the mpc's (too bad there's so little ram on that thing).
but this sound advantage is only an advantage for those who like this type of sound. So the 1000 might even have an sound advantage too, because it doesn't color the sound. so people who likes clean ish can just sample into the thousand, and those who like dirtier/grittier/warmer/whatever sound can sample through external gear and sample it back to the thousand without any noticeable loss of warmth and all that ish.

i've said it before

but anyone who relies on a machine's sound for their music needs to step up their game.

transparency for me, which is why i bypass A/D converters altogether

youre missing the point. its like playing heavy metal with a nylon string guitar.

im not denying the character of the 12 bit converters, but what im saying more or less is that with my computer and plugins, i can make the mpc 1000 sound any way i wish. even 12 bit if im so inclined! all i have to do is sample a 12 bit source, or use a bit reduction plugin. voila, and i get to keep all the modern improvements of the mpc 1000! and i would MUCH rather have those over a lesser machine whos only 'advantage' among a sea of disadvantages is 12 bit converters.

ive said it before

its not because i NEED it. its preferenece. but lets be real. all musicians rely on their instruments' sound, as filmmakers, photographers, painters all rely on their gear to capture their imaginations. there is no magic brush that paints the picture for you, and no camera that shoots perfect photos. you saying, you need to step up the game, youre implying the machine does the work for you. which it does not. i mean, its not like, all i do is record some sample into the sampler and call that finished work. if you ask quincy jones, i bet he relies on some of his equipment for certain sounds that he cant achieve on others. unless youre using your vocal chords, you need to find the right 'voice'.

Antonym wrote:i've said it before

but anyone who relies on a machine's sound for their music needs to step up their game.

transparency for me, which is why i bypass A/D converters altogether

hey buddy boy ignore the truth all you want

the irony... are you even reading what im writing?

alien_brain wrote:hey buddy boy ignore the truth all you want

its cool. do what works for you.

oh for sure!