My PROFESSIONAL midi production center

MPC3000,
You have your opinion, I have mine. Your comments are very negative and unhelpful, but thanks for your manifesto below. In reply:

You are assuming that everyone else considers this to be a vital component of the MPC

- wrong. I assume nothing. This function has been on the MAIN SCREEN for 15 years. Where do most people do their sequencing from? The MAIN SCREEN. You claim I am presumptious, please.

How the previous MPC's operated is irrevelent to most MPC1000 owners

- wrong. I purchased an MPC1000, not an EMU Command station, SP606 or MV8000. Of course this is relevant. If AKAI markets and sells this unit as an MPC, it should operate like an MPC.

Never, ever buy equipment for what you think it should do, or what it might do in the future. You are only setting yourself up for disapointment and is a self-destructive behavior that may possibly extend beyond a person's equipment buying habit.

- MPC3000, you must have some great dust you're smoking over there, these comments are completely idiotic. A drill drills. A washing machine washes clothes. Sound editing software edit sounds. A midi sequencer should sequence midi. Part of sequencing is the ability to increase or decrease the volume of what you record into it. Yes, I can return it, thanks. Making a purchase based on your expectations, this is normal consumer behavior, and occurs billions of times a day around the world. This is not self destructive behavior, sorry.

Should Akai Pro, with only 25 employees, stop work on other enhancements to get this in?

- Yes. 25 Employees is a good #. Have you read the MPC4000 new OS features? 25 Employees coded and delivered those improvements. I spent $900 on this unit. This is a good portion of my net income. I could buy a washer / dryer, used car, table saw, leather sofa, etc. What should AKAI do? Have their employees update the OS to include the velocity adjustment on the main screen.

Dahkter, you are the man!

Dahkter, I agree. Akai, put the cheese bread down and get to work!

I can't believe you guys are still talking about this -

It's a Music Production Center (advertised as such - stated clearly on the blue box)

not a MIDI Production Center (advertsied as such - stated clearly on the old ugly off tan kinda dirty white box)

Somethings the xl's, 3k's and 4k's have would be a nice addidition to the 1000 but they don't - no need to take it any further than that - it's cool to create a wishlist, maybe Akai will listen maybe they won't but in the mean time...

My personal testimonial on the 1000:

I had a 2000xl but it wasn't sparking my creative juices to write techno so I sold it and bought a computer, only to realise WOW Logic is not as creative to use as my old MPC (but I learned a lot about computer music in that year without my 2000xl) until the 1000 came out and I was like, OMG and I bought it - juices were flowing, I was happy - computer + MPC WOW until I read a post on this forum about Ableton Live so I demo'd it and swiftly bought it, upgraded to version 4 and haven't looked back (Check out the production on my soundclick page below)

I use the 1000 for triggering clips in live and playing notes in impulse and the simpler - no samples are used in the 1000 no sequencing is done with the MPC - I do however like to use it to sample various things around my house such as my television or sample things off the internet (I convert my Itunes MP3's to wav in the 1000 by resampling because MP4's are locked) so it's an invaluable tool around thr crib but just not for the usual - plus the storage and sampling times are nice

djadonis206 wrote:I can't believe you guys are still talking about this -
It's a Music Production Center (advertised as such - stated clearly on the blue box)
not a MIDI Production Center (advertsied as such - stated clearly on the old ugly off tan kinda dirty white box)

Listen :WHATEVER they call it, its a sampler/sequencer with tracks where u cant change the volumes!

Moogens/Thass - thanks for the support
DJAdonis - I get your logic below, what you see is what you get, but you can at least make a case that this machine should be able to sequence midi info and/or internal samples. I started this post many many months ago. It is surprising to see it's still out there, but there is a reason.
My personal testimonial is this:
I purchased the MPC to use as a sequencer, with VSTi's, external midi gear and internal samples in the same way I used my MPC2000 and MPC60. I can't sequence with it. I can't adjust the volume of each track.
I have not even used it once since realizing it cannot do this (seriously).
I have two choices - Ebay or await an update that fixes this glaring ommision.
Now we have other forumites that agree with this logic, that's why you see this post still moving along. And it's not that surprising consider this thing costs close to one thousand dollars to purchase.

Cool -

My only suggestion is to work within your limitations and see what happens...

fu<k changing midi volume,can we get a fix for the sample dropping and clicks,theese shits musta fell off the assembly line before it got thru the last inspector or somethin

Adonis - word up, that's the bottom line, makin beats with what you got... I've been working primarily on the SP1200, it's working for me, but I do miss having an MPC to add to the mix, it's always been an inspiring piece in my studio.
loo2004ep - wrong thread, there's another thread on this board of people talking about samples cutting off, check that one out...

yeah i know but i try to throw in a comment about akais carelessness in any and al lthreads,thanks for the heads up tho

"why not fork over a few hundred more bucks and get the grown -up Mpc's and be content with all of your most lusted features?

cuz we rather get whut we paid for"

I don't always agree with loo2004ep, but I could not have said it better myself.

"This function has been on the MAIN SCREEN for 15 years. Where do most people do their sequencing from? The MAIN SCREEN"

Another assumtion. Most people I know do their sequencing in Step Edit, not the main screen. Locality does not provide any indication of importance. Floppies have been a part of MPC's even since before they were MPC's (called ADR at the time). SCSI has been a long time integral part of MPC's. Niether of these items are present in the MPC1000. So just because something had been part of an MPC does not make it important. Just because you think that it is important does not make it so.

I do not hear hundreds of previous MPC owners complaining about thier MPC CD library being useless with the MPC1000. Same goes for floppy. Like me, I am sure they make the best of it and move on.

"Have you read the MPC4000 new OS features? 25 Employees coded and delivered those improvements. I spent $900 on this unit."

Exactly. And they spent over $3000 on those units. Get the idea? Also, I said Akai has 25 employees, not coders. Only a fraction of those work on the coding, and I guarantee they are not sitting around the break table waiting for something to do.

"Part of sequencing is the ability to increase or decrease the volume of what you record into it"

This statement is not correct. You can correct volume of anything you record into it.

"its a sampler/sequencer with tracks where u cant change the volumes'

Again, another false statement.

I really cannot beleive people are still spending this much time on a non-issue. You can change the velocity and of the volume on the MPC1000. It was only $900. My XL was nearly $1300, stock. The MPC60 listed for $2795. The ratio to your disposable income is irrelevent in this. Musical gear is now more affordable than ever before, yet people still complain for more. At minimum wage it takes just under a month at full time to buy an MPC1000. When the MPC60 came out, one would have to work 6 months to afford one, and that was one of the more affordable peices at the time.

I get the feeling that people are just upset that they do not get ALL the features of the MPC2000XL for $400 less. This is simply not going to be the case. In order to create an affordable machine, so things are just not there. This is not saying they will not show up, because a lot of what eventually happens to the MPC will depend on sales. If people complain a lot about the MPC, sales go down and Akai can no longer support the product. Personally, I would like to see the machine sell well. More sales mean more features. Plain and simple. People can be for this goal, or they can be against it.

"I get the feeling that people are just upset that they do not get ALL the features of the MPC2000XL for $400 less. This is simply not going to be the case. In order to create an affordable machine, so things are just not there. This is not saying they will not show up, because a lot of what eventually happens to the MPC will depend on sales. If people complain a lot about the MPC, sales go down and Akai can no longer support the product. Personally, I would like to see the machine sell well. More sales mean more features. Plain and simple. People can be for this goal, or they can be against it"


Spoken like a true visionary! And let this be a lesson to all who doubt the the Man the Myth and the Legend that is...
mpc3000. Pay Homage and join the ranks of powerful thinkers or remain in the little box that is your current Mpc1k! (trumpets blairing and snare drums rolling in the background)

Losing velocity per track is kinda rough tho... Timestretch and auto chromatic I understand, but that's pretty basic. I know you can change the velocity of a sample within a track, but what if the track is made up of multisampled notes? A bit of a pain in the ass.

How about a wish list forum page for all MPC's?

How is Akai suppose to know what we really want and will really be happy with unless they know what we REALLY want out of their gear - the Ableton forum has a wish list forum page and they listened and created (IMO) one of the hottest pieces of software around

I mean seriously, we can either speak up as a whole and say "In the 4000 we want this, in the 2000xl we want this and in the 1000 we want that!"

They'll listen, if they don't someone else will...know what I mean (i.e. Roland, Yamaha, EMu)

just an idea - it's not so cut and dry as "If you want this or that, spend more money..."

mpc3000 wrote:"its a sampler/sequencer with tracks where u cant change the volumes'"
Again, another false statement.

Please MPC3000: Explain me how I change volume of tracks. If you cant, then dont call me a lyar, that really pisses me off. And dont start telling me, that I can change volume of pads. You know its not the same.