data wheel broken....

months ago i bought an older mpc1000 with a faulty data wheel. it was annoying but i was still able to work on the machine. like many stated on the forums it would skip 2 or 3 intervals, making it hard to trim, change names, save, etc, but i could still make beats. however, the DW finally bit the dust. i rotate the wheel to the right four complete rounds and maybe it will scroll once on screen.

i have already gone into mode>other >global and switched the data wheel type to 2, which didnt help. im pretty sure the encoder is busted... i found some sites on the forums and just wanted to know if these are the right encoders to purchase. im pretty sure i dont need a the plastic data wheel.
mpcstuff.com is out of stock.

should i get this?
http://www.vstservice.com/p-706-akai-mp ... coder.aspx

or this?
http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/700701/


any help greatly appreciated

just called vst service. they have the part, but its going to be $85 to install it. sigh

mumkai wrote:just called vst service. they have the part, but its going to be $85 to install it. sigh

The part is $10 at VST. Order the part, take your MPC apart yourself (it is pretty easy) and find a small electronics repair shop that will do the soldering for you. It should cost $15-$20 and take 10 minutes.

MeSoHordey wrote:

mumkai wrote:just called vst service. they have the part, but its going to be $85 to install it. sigh

The part is $10 at VST. Order the part, take your MPC apart yourself (it is pretty easy) and find a small electronics repair shop that will do the soldering for you. It should cost $15-$20 and take 10 minutes.

hey thanks for the reply. i just ordered the part off VST an hour ago. thought of doing what you said, but still uneasy about fully taking my mpc apart. ive taken only the top and bottom of the unit for small fixes like the buttons/ram. i have the service manual which helps alot, but is there any vid or instructions on breaking it down? anyway thanks for the info.

Nym did a detailed screen replacement video which will get you to the part you need access to...Check youtube under Nym MPC 1000 LCD replacement.

cool.
ive seen pretty much every thread on rotary encoders. some with pics of the PCB board which helped alot. i managed to get the actual board with the encoder out. i was thinking i might re solder the existing encoder in there but i think ill just play the waiting game for the new encoder to come...

so i took the right pcb board off. was as careful as possible. i saw that my rotary encoder was very loose. it somewhat makes sense it being loose because every single time you take the plastic wheel off you pull the whole unit up causing to loosen from the board. underneath the pcb are two small cables connected to the encoder. im not a solder expert, but the solder job on those 2 cables looks very amateur, just looks careless. with hardly apply any new solder i managed to make the encoder quite stable in position. put everything back into place. still no dice. so ill wait for that new encoder from VST and update back. FML...i have beats to track...

got the rotary encoder today from VST. ive called around 9 or 10 electronic stores in my vicinity all saying they either dont do that sort of repair. even checked the yellow pages - the real yellow pages book guys, not the website lol.
it seems most places dont want to be liable for breaking something since they have no clue what an mpc is. makes sense... go to Forat and shell out mucho dinero? anyone know of a place cheaper that VST or Forat in the Los Angeles area?? that might be dumb to ask and i do have the $95 to shell out, but for a fix like this it just seems ludicrous. am im trippin guys?

There used to be a guy on Beverly Blvd beween Fairfax and Crecent Heights that
repaired Rhodes and analog synths.I do not know the name or if he is still there but
he could do this repair easily he is quite a genius.P.S. Place looks like pawn shop from street.Peace TYPO

TYPO wrote:There used to be a guy on Beverly Blvd beween Fairfax and Crecent Heights that
repaired Rhodes and analog synths.I do not know the name or if he is still there but
he could do this repair easily he is quite a genius.P.S. Place looks like pawn shop from street.Peace TYPO

thanks for the info TYPO. i passed by there, walked around looking for something similar to a pawn shop. no luck. you remember where you were over there?

Got back from Forat today with the fix. im glad i didnt go the cheap route this time and i spent the dough on a pro to fix.

Forat def knows his sh!t!!!!
-he found the problem with the encoder, fixed it.
-put front chasis back on and some how the data wheel would change the screen contrast.
-took it back, fixed it by swapping a few cracked buttons with new(er) buttons.
-boom - data wheel is fixed


took him a little over an hour and i left his place WITH mpc in hand. if youre willing to drop the cash => http://www.forat.com/