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By jingli Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:14 pm
Hi everyone!

I`m new to this forum and the world of mpc`s so please don`t flame me for a stupid newbie question:)
I have been making beats with reason for a while but I`m not happy with the way my drum samples sound whatever I do to them. I`m thinking of buying an mpc to program drums and then run the outputs into logic.The thing is I heard lots of people rave about that special Akai sound. I know I would need a decent compressor at least or some quality outboard effects, but I`d like to know how would you guys rate the quality of the effects built into the mpc? Is it what i`m looking for?
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By jacon Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:22 am
you have only about 5 or 6 effects that you can apply to your music on the mpc, but it is :wink: computer friendly. I never used logic, but I beleave you could use effects from that software. the mpc is your foundation, know make a house.

By mpc3000 Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:26 am
"I know I would need a decent compressor at least or some quality outboard effects,"

Why? THe MPC has built-in effects, including a compressor.

By chd Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:51 am
The thing is I heard lots of people rave about that special Akai sound


That would be primarily the "coloring" that the converters impose on the sound.

The ad/da converters on the mpc1k are nothing spectacular but they are certainly not bad. I have found that when recording form various sources the eventual recording will stay quite true to the original. I dont own an other mpc so i cannot directly compare but in my book it is a GOOD thing. As digital processing is already being the standard (meaning that unless u print direct to tape) it is commandable for an external device to stay close to the source soundwise. This is especially true if u use the digital in/outs. Would u stay as long as possible in the digital realm u will find that the mpc basically becomes an accurate recording/playback device staying completely near the original source (there is a very faint "noise floor" as the signal goes back in the puter via the digital in of ur card but this is arguably a result of EMF inside the computer).
This implies that what u put in will come out more or less the same. I didnt find the 1k to give any particular character to the sound other than a little bit of "smearing" wich is inherent to all but the high-end converters.
It is a fact that ad/da technology has improved significantly over the years since the early digital devices and the mpc1k is a good example of it. However , dont expect the mpc1k to impart an audible and distinct character to the sound. Earlier models might influence the character of sound in a far greater way wich is why these devices are still sought after.
This is due to imperfection of the onboard ad/da converters design wich will give distortion but one that is pleasing to the ear somehow.

Thus imho the mpc1k wont give u any dirt, thickness, harmonic distortion or unexpected punch to the material u put into or at playback. It is just a fairly precise playback/recording device that allows u to add any desireable effect or processing at a later stage.

As for the onboard effects section I can say (imho) that it is up to par with plug-ins and the like if not a notch better. Especially dialing in a low boost near 60hz-90Hz with te onboard eq will lift the lows (shelved that is) like few plug-ins can. Im not too wild about the compressor but if u need one take a look at the very affordable and excellent value FMR RNC wich is arguably the best compressor at that particualr price range ($199). Many top studio's own a couple of 'em (even racked LOL) and it WILL do what it supposed to do. Out of all the effects i would say i like "bit grunger" the least. I would rather have seen a dedicated distortion fx but it could have its uses. Reverb and phase shifter are quite nice. Tremolo and flying pan could have their uses as well.

If u think about outboard processing gear check out e-bay. There are many worthy devices on for sale. If ur money stretch that long i would definitely save up for a decent recording channel , with a nice preamp init plus eq and maybe a comp PLUS an outboard ad/da converter box. Some decent monitors with it and ur basically set. Wander around the site im linking below they only pimp quality gear.

http://www.mercenary.com/realniccom.html

PEACE!! 8)

By karlalfred Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:57 am
mpc3000 wrote:"I know I would need a decent compressor at least or some quality outboard effects,"

Why? THe MPC has built-in effects, including a compressor.


There has been complaints about the versitality of the built in compressor in this forum before, I think?

If using the MPC as a stand alone unit I would get a decent delay, tape-delays can be really cool. If you're into digital audio Lexicon and TC have all digital fxs that will blow the Akai away imho. I really like the Lexicon plates and ambience fx.

But what I miss mostly is delay.
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By dubnov Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:12 am
karlalfred wrote:There has been complaints about the versitality of the built in compressor in this forum before, I think?


Yeah, the attack time is too short for drum compression.

By cut out Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:00 pm
gotta say i love the master FX & compressor though... can make stuff jump right out.
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By Jessiah Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:50 pm
Dude, the mpc is the only way to go with drums. you can adjust the decay and turn down/up the filters to make it a phat kik or whatever. You can also make snares really twangy by adjusting the velocity and stuff... no question.

I was just taking all these drum samples i had and cuting and pasting into sonar, maybe even adding eq to the tracks... the mpc kiks that processes *ss. Dont try anything else...
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By jingli Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:15 pm
Thanks for the replies guys

I think my problem is that so far i`ve been recording through my m-audio ozone interface and i don`t think the quality of the converters are good enough on that thing. I know my samples will only sound good if the source is good of course. I`m just looking for a high quality sampling tool that will give more options as far as making the beats a little bit fatter.I have tried the mpc 2000 before and i love the way you can work on that thing. The portability of the mpc 1000 is a big deal for me though. I`m buying one for sure.

By jabbah wokie Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:01 pm
try layering your kicks snares ect... try using little sounds that emphasize the beginning of a kick,, or pitching a snare up high and layering just a little tick to give it that pop you want. the key is not to rely on dynamic processors to make your sound fat.. unless you have some crazy signal chain goin for off the wall effects.
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By gertie Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:20 pm
just took this from another posting

this will give you an idea of the different sound characteristics coming from different samplers

http://www.hiphopproduction.com/tutoria ... EACE57F3E1

Its got the mpc2000xl which correct me if I'm wrong is the same sample engine as the mpc1000