these are the issues i still have with the 1k

im not trying to troll or anything like that, just getting frustrated. maybe someone can offer some help - anyone else still having these problems?----



-sketchy save/load.
every once in a while i load up a project and it either wont play (the sequence data appears to be corrupt), or i get some kind of an error message, or a sample will be corrupt (see below), etc...

this is even more rare, but has still happened - i save things like over and over while working on a beat and i go back later and the thing is just toast. there'll be samples missing off the cf card completely or a whole file will be corrupt and not load-able. ive lost quite a few beats this way. it's even happened with a client sitting right here next to me. this is not user error, this is a card becoming corrupt under normal conditions.







-cf cards are annoying.
right now i own 3 cf cards. the 32MB that came with the mpc (works fine most of the time, except for the occasional fun like i wrote up there), a 256 fuji that acts the same, and a 1GB viking. the viking i just bought and i have to return it, like the other 5-7 cards ive bought that simply didnt work. it sucks that i have to buy a card and then devote a few hours to testing it out just to see if it is going to work! imagine if 2000xl people had to do that with EVERY SINGLE ZIP disk?! fuggetaboutit







-that stupid click at the end of a sample.
i know this was supposed to be fixed with an OS update, either the last one or the one before. i am still sometimes getting a blip of noise at the end of samples right after loading them. it seems to happen as soon as the sample file hits the cf card. if i drag a cleanly truncated sample off my hard drive to a cf, then load it into the 1k, maybe 20-40% of the time there will be this little blip added to the end of the sample, ranging in length from 1 to maybe 2000 samples.

if i take that same file off the card and drag it to my desktop, when i open it in a sound file editor on my mac the blip is still there. so it's not happening when i load the file, the sound is actually being changed on the card.

it sucks. it's like - i just wanna load up this stupid bass drum and get moving. but noooo, first i gotta find it in trim, the truncate it, etc.

no one else still gets this???


the other issues i have arent bug-related, just general weirdness. like the fx being kinda sucky. the way they are routed is a little stupid - for instance the mixer fader is what feeds the input to the bit grunger. so it is impossible to crunch up a sound with the bit grunger and not have it be totally loud in the mix. not without resampling anyway.

the last thing i was gonna say here i'll just make a new thread about.



so who still shares my angst

nope, i'm still lovin mine more an more each day. I haven't run into any of those problems. hope you get it worked out. paossibly its the brand cf card you have or the way it was formatted or something. don't give up on er, work that b*tch.

peace

sorry, i forgot to mention that i got a kingston 1gig

peace

I have never had any of your problems.
Just save with the save entire memory to your song folder on the cf and turn replace on.Works fine for me.
About the CF cards , i bought a 128 MB and two 512 MB Sandisk CF cards and they have never given me problems , just format them the first time you use them and your fine.
And the click problem , never had that problem either , are you cutting your samples right? Try fading out a very short piece at the end of the sample with and audio editor , that should do the trick.
Greetz...

what sample editor do you use on your PC?

I have noticed that samples that have been edited on the pc are prone to pose problems on the MPC. Xhe I sample and edit n the MPC only everything is fine (except, at times, a noticeable click at the beginning of the sample happens only if I sample in stereo and I keep a high input level).
But whenever I put a smample through Recycle, or Soundforge, I start having issues. The sample will hang on load, the sample will have clicks at the end or whatever. I eventually stopped editing on the PC which i not my style anyhow (and also because my audio card is so crappy that I can't monitor properly what I'm doing...).
About saving, I ususally keep nly one project at a time on the MPC, save all sequences in one go (under the project name) and save all samples and programes in a nother go. Never had issues with that.

About FX... well definetly not the best feature of the MPC. I have gripes about reverb as well. Given that you put reverb on a PAD instead of a TRACK it creates situations where reverbs stacks up until it distorts if the pad with reverb is used with 16 levels and plays on top of itself. Even if you set that pad to MONO (vs. POLY) the reverb is not affected.
The bit grunger I feel is completely unusable for the reason you mention. The only workaround is to get in the PAD screen and turn the pad volume down.

Anyow, apart from that I lke my MPC1k, a sampler I really enjoy using a lot. Doesn't get in my way if you know what I mean.

tiger vomitt wrote:
-that stupid click at the end of a sample.
i know this was supposed to be fixed with an OS update, either the last one or the one before. i am still sometimes getting a blip of noise at the end of samples right after loading them. it seems to happen as soon as the sample file hits the cf card. if i drag a cleanly truncated sample off my hard drive to a cf, then load it into the 1k, maybe 20-40% of the time there will be this little blip added to the end of the sample, ranging in length from 1 to maybe 2000 samples.

to bring the sample from the pc to the cf card, are you using a usb card reader, or the usb connection beetween the pc and the mpc ?
i think several people have had troubles with the mpc to pc usb direct connection.

thanks everybody for the thoughts...

Fasttracker wrote:I have never had any of your problems.
Just save with the save entire memory to your song folder on the cf and turn replace on.Works fine for me.
About the CF cards , i bought a 128 MB and two 512 MB Sandisk CF cards and they have never given me problems , just format them the first time you use them and your fine.
And the click problem , never had that problem either , are you cutting your samples right? Try fading out a very short piece at the end of the sample with and audio editor , that should do the trick.
Greetz...

yeah, the card is formatted and all that. yes the samples are trimmed correctly jeez. im not exactly new to this, i know how to use a sampler (ive been making beats for over 10 years on all kinds of different gear). but thank you anyway, i know you mean well.

freezerman wrote:what sample editor do you use on your PC?

im on a mac, i use all kinds of stuff. Peak, recycle, digital performer, itunes, even reason sometimes

I have noticed that samples that have been edited on the pc are prone to pose problems on the MPC.

it happens to me if i sample directly to the mpc also

I ususally keep nly one project at a time on the MPC, save all sequences in one go (under the project name) and save all samples and programes in a nother go. Never had issues with that.

yeah that's what i do. although you say you only keep one project on the MPC...do you mean to say that you save to autoload or something? i always save right to the cf card

The bit grunger I feel is completely unusable for the reason you mention. The only workaround is to get in the PAD screen and turn the pad volume down.

if you do that, youre still lowering the volume of the pad as it goes into the bit grunger. so if you turn it down, you still wont get any, ummm, grunging


thank for your help everyone. anyone else have any experience with this junk?

I don't use the autoload feature, don't even know what it i worth for. It is far easier to save to separate folders.

i always have trouble saving sequences. can anyone help?

Tigervomit,
I get the clicks at the end of my samples. I only load samples from my computer via USB, so I cannot comment on samples recorded and editted with the MPC.
I get the clicks when loading drum samples from sample CDs in WAV format.
I also use Protools to record and edit samples and I get the clicks, BUT ONLY SOMETIMES... Even stranger is that I can often erase the afflicted sample(from the CF card), drag the sample from MAC to MPC AGAIN, and it will be fine????

On the effects... USELESS aside from resampling! I would have preferred other options. Ah well, I am not a designer, just an end- user trying to make backing tracks for my songs.

I agree with using seperate outs to attain greater levels of clarity. The MPC1K stereo outs do break up early IMO.

Tony

goldenechos wrote:Even stranger is that I can often erase the afflicted sample(from the CF card), drag the sample from MAC to MPC AGAIN, and it will be fine????

see that's what im saying, it's like as soon as the mpc goes to take it off the card the file becomes corrupted

tony, are you using 1.07?

[quote="tiger vomitt"][quote="goldenechos"]Even stranger is that I can often erase the afflicted sample(from the CF card), drag the sample from MAC to MPC AGAIN, and it will be fine????[/quote]


see that's what im saying, it's like as soon as the mpc goes to take it off the card the file becomes corrupted

tony, are you using 1.07?[/quote]

Yes. I saved all of the Internal Rom sounds to the card I have with no problems.

T

You know, all this happening because your not formatting your cards inside the Akai. You have to format them or they wont work right foo. All you have to do is go to mode – load – utility – format card. And shyt man stop your whining only females do that.

i never had any of your problems (except for the dissapointment in the lame FX and routing).

i am still using 1.06 as an os.
PNY is the brand of card i use.

i use recycle (and sometimes soundforge) and i've never had any click issues. both transferring wavs through the mpc usb, as well as using a card reader.

you might want to check if you are saving extra data with the wav when editing on your computer. sometimes programs will have an option to include program specific info to the wav (loop points, markers, etc....). see if maybe unclicking that option might help.

a friend of mine had the same issues with file corruption and actually not being able to save to his card at all. it turned out one of the directories on his card was causing the problem. and if i remember correctly it was because of an invalid filename (filenames can only be a certain length). might want to see if you have any longass filenames creeping around on your card.

good luck.

looking4crates wrote:You know, all this happening because your not formatting your cards inside the Akai. You have to format them or they wont work right foo. All you have to do is go to mode – load – utility – format card. And shyt man stop your whining only females do that.

learn how to read you dumb ****

i said i formatted the card in the mpc