filters... a topic i havnt heard much of

not many people have yakked about filters on here.. so lets start! i for one havnt even touched mine on my mpc.. i dont really get them to me they just seem like "tone" knobs on a guitar haha just shunting the original sound . on synths i understand it more. so ya everyone make fun of me and lets tart talking about them lol

i'm addicted to em. i use them on practically everything to get just the right sound. perhaps thats just me though.

I love the filters on the 1k. The low pass filter I find is especially good. I had the 4k and the low pass on the 1k is much better. The basslines come out sounding more like basslines and bringing up the resolution actually makes it sound phat. The 4k's filter sounded too robotic and digital, and the output on the low pass was always so low. It was very difficult to get a really nice filtered bassline on the 4k. The 4k can't handle bass like the 1k and the other mpc's can. It distorts the hell outta bass and it just doesn't sound right.

I don't have much use for the bandpass filter. Maybe I'm not using it right but I just don't like how it sounds. I really like the high pass though. I actually use it on my drums to get them to knock more. They cut out the bass that leaves the drums muddy sounding and your left with drums that smack you in the face. I put the filter on 10-30 depending on how muddy the drums are, and the snare I like with lmore high end as possible. A little bit of resolution too. I'm still perfecting it though. I'm going to try making the drums snap and put an 808 under the kick and see how that goes. Some low lows and some mids and highs for the drums. I've used 808 under kicks before, but not when I've used the high pass to make em snap.

i started messing around with filters a lot lately and just experimenting, and i really like using them.

in fact, right now i just took a run of the mill sample of an acoustic cord and put a low filter on it, and now im making some really dope ambience song...im not sure if that made sense, but filters are definitely a lot of fun to play with.

also you can filter out some of the highs and some of the lows at the same time to create that ever-so popular voice effect. just try it and youll know what i mean.

the filters on the 1k are hella nice! i use em always, even more than the
fx's. that's because my fx's are both compressors from the start, so no playin
with em... i use hi-pass more than low-pass, both are nice, band pass very
rarely, seems to always come up with that radio sound, dont like it....

Yeah, filters rock! I understand your 'Tone knob' comparison but filters are not just about removing filters. Some/most filters add character to the original sound, but other filters are regarded as being 'clean' which usually refers to the fact that they do just cut frequencies and then leave the original sound pretty much in tack. The Akai MFC42 is an example of a clean filter but even so, it will still enhance the original sound in some pretty cool ways.

This stuff is a bit techie, but:

Filtering v EQ: (this might not work as you may need an account to get in).
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan05/a ... 0105-4.htm

General info on Filters:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug99/a ... ecrets.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep99/a ... ecrets.htm

i like the 1k's filters a lot too, and for the same reasons others have listed.

ive been using a 2000xl more lately and i really miss the high pass filter

Im not actually that keen on the 1k's filters - they just dont excite me. Also, the fact that they are only applied for note on really limits their use..

punkdISCO wrote:Im not actually that keen on the 1k's filters - they just dont excite me. Also, the fact that they are only applied for note on really limits their use..

thats not true. is it?

punkdISCO wrote:Im not actually that keen on the 1k's filters - they just dont excite me. Also, the fact that they are only applied for note on really limits their use..

Not sure what you are meaning by this. The filter works on the sample whether it's note on or one shot. Unless you mean that the filters are not sweepable, then I hear ya on that one.

punkdISCO wrote:Im not actually that keen on the 1k's filters - they just dont excite me. Also, the fact that they are only applied for note on really limits their use..

Iwould take your 1k back and get a new one. my filters work for one shot and note on samples.

i actually hate the 1k's filters

nah, he means that the filter doesnt change across a loop, like there arent any filter sweeps across a long sample

I don't think the 1ks filters are anything special at all. In fact I often find them hard to work with, especially with kicks. Trying to filter out a hi-hat on a kick isn't as easy as it should be. They aren't subtle enough for my liking. it's either not enough or too much with them

>> I would take your 1k back and get a new one. my filters work for one shot and note on samples.<<

Not really an option. My 1k works exactly as described in the manual and how I knew it would work before deciding to buy it. I did not buy it for the filters...

From the manual: Obviously also applies to the filters..

"When you hit a pad which has a Q-Link slider function assigned, the information of the slider position will be sent to the sampler section as note variation data. The note variation data converts the parameters value to slider position data, before the pad’s sample is played back. For example, when you select TUNE as a parameter, moving the slider sends out the tune’s note variation data to the pad and changes the sample’s tune."

But Tiger Vomitt (cool name btw..) explains it more concisely:

>> he means that the filter doesnt change across a loop, like there arent any filter sweeps across a long sample <<