By systemone
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:27 pm
On the latetst MPC 1k OS is there any way to move single events in the step edit mode without copy paste and delete?
By cynic
Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:37 pm
no, and it SUCKS. i tried emailing akai yesterday about it, but no email address on their site. [email protected] works, but who knows if anyone will answer it...i'm going to try calling them today and see if i can **** at anyone over the phone. hahah
By mpc3000
Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:55 pm
The current implemenetation of the step edit subsystem does not allow for 'moving' events. To allow for this would require some serious hacking.
The step edit screen of the MPC1000 is time based, where it displays events for a single point in time. Select and event and you cannot directly change the time associated with that event. In the MPC2k series, the step edit screen is track based in which all events for a track are displayed along with the time for the event. To move an event in this requires just highlighting the time and changing it.
The step edit screen of the MPC1000 is time based, where it displays events for a single point in time. Select and event and you cannot directly change the time associated with that event. In the MPC2k series, the step edit screen is track based in which all events for a track are displayed along with the time for the event. To move an event in this requires just highlighting the time and changing it.
By punchdrunk
Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:28 pm
mpc3000 wrote:The current implemenetation of the step edit subsystem does not allow for 'moving' events. To allow for this would require some serious hacking.
The step edit screen of the MPC1000 is time based, where it displays events for a single point in time. Select and event and you cannot directly change the time associated with that event. In the MPC2k series, the step edit screen is track based in which all events for a track are displayed along with the time for the event. To move an event in this requires just highlighting the time and changing it.
but theoretically there could be a batch file implemented to take care of the monotous part on the user correct? like select an event, a pop up window opens where you put in a new time, and when you hit "do it" or whatever the old event is deleted and the event is automatically pasted to the time you specified.
just something to automate what we the users are doing over and over. i believe that should be something possible.
either way i gave up on hoping that akai would implement this. i was flipping out a year or so ago when i realized this, but once you learn to just be happy with what you got it makes it much easier to continue on making music. i highly doubt akai will ever put this in the 1000 because they quite frankly they dont have to.
peace.
By Antonym
Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:06 am
i am so used to doing it that i dont even notice anymore, really...plus once you get good enough at tapping your beats in you need to move em around less and less, esp if you're programming drums via step edit rather than record (less skillful, but the ends are the ends).
not that i wouldnt love a nudge feature, and it's the kind of thing that could be implemented even wihut the 2000xl's old track edit setup - it could just be an automated copy/delete move, like punchdrunk was saying...select the note that needs to be moved and it gets deleted for you.
i can always hope. if it doesnt get thrown in i'm fine--never been happier with my mpc, especially now that i have a DAW with reason as a sound module...for now all i need is knowledge of VSTs. i have no idea what i'm doing right now with those. got a copy of Ableton live, will read the manual soon...
not that i wouldnt love a nudge feature, and it's the kind of thing that could be implemented even wihut the 2000xl's old track edit setup - it could just be an automated copy/delete move, like punchdrunk was saying...select the note that needs to be moved and it gets deleted for you.
i can always hope. if it doesnt get thrown in i'm fine--never been happier with my mpc, especially now that i have a DAW with reason as a sound module...for now all i need is knowledge of VSTs. i have no idea what i'm doing right now with those. got a copy of Ableton live, will read the manual soon...
By truvc
Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:50 am
punchdrunk wrote:once you learn to just be happy with what you got it makes it much easier to continue on making music.
i agree 200% with you man.
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Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:47 pm
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By mpc3000
Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:04 am
"select an event, a pop up window opens where you put in a new time"
I am glad to see that someone else is thinking of it too. I would also like to see an easier way to move notes, but I come from a MPC2k/3k background. It is possible that new Akai users do not care since they do not know any different. The users who also have used previous MPC's may be the ones making the biggest stink. It's all anecdotal to us and hard to say what is right are wrong since we are not experiencing this in a perfect vacuum.
Sometimes when I work with the MPC I try to block out the fact that I have owned every over MPC. In that situation I am not sure that I would miss the things that most everyone else is saying that the MPC1000 should have.
I am glad to see that someone else is thinking of it too. I would also like to see an easier way to move notes, but I come from a MPC2k/3k background. It is possible that new Akai users do not care since they do not know any different. The users who also have used previous MPC's may be the ones making the biggest stink. It's all anecdotal to us and hard to say what is right are wrong since we are not experiencing this in a perfect vacuum.
Sometimes when I work with the MPC I try to block out the fact that I have owned every over MPC. In that situation I am not sure that I would miss the things that most everyone else is saying that the MPC1000 should have.
By Antonym
Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:47 pm
mpc3000 speaks extremely wise truths.
i think prior mpc users are going at the 1k hoping it'll be a self contained workstation. it is not, it will nev er be, and it should never be.
i got it when i grew tired of making beats solely on computer and wanted to step myself up. this, it did. i had never touched a 2000xl or anything prior. my samples are all timestretched before they go into the mpc. honestly, if there was a timestretching feature in the 1k, i wouldn't touch it because i wouldn't need to.
it'd be like if the mpc had a vagina. cool, i guess, but i prefer to get mine elsewhere. same deal with zoning.
however, as a first time mpc user, this nudge issue is one i would absolutely most like to see resolved. it'd be like if windows didn't have a click and drag function - a no brainer.
but regardless, the 1k still kicks my ass and crying is not worth it.
i think prior mpc users are going at the 1k hoping it'll be a self contained workstation. it is not, it will nev er be, and it should never be.
i got it when i grew tired of making beats solely on computer and wanted to step myself up. this, it did. i had never touched a 2000xl or anything prior. my samples are all timestretched before they go into the mpc. honestly, if there was a timestretching feature in the 1k, i wouldn't touch it because i wouldn't need to.
it'd be like if the mpc had a vagina. cool, i guess, but i prefer to get mine elsewhere. same deal with zoning.
however, as a first time mpc user, this nudge issue is one i would absolutely most like to see resolved. it'd be like if windows didn't have a click and drag function - a no brainer.
but regardless, the 1k still kicks my ass and crying is not worth it.