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By Antonym Sun Aug 07, 2005 4:33 pm
love it or hate it, things are being done with the mpc 1000 that are really really cool. few mpcs have been used with such dedication alongside computer programs, vsts and such - with such ease and interest.

here are a few of my reflections on the mpc 1k's "flaws."

as someone who started as a strictly computer producer in high school because that's all i had access to (much like an aspiring dj in 3rd world new york in the 70s who had nothing but turntables) the idea of timestretching was never amazing to me. i used acid 3.0 to produce 2 cds - the idea of "beatmapping" and then adjusting its pitch took some getting used to but turned out to be an incredibly valuable trick when it came to sampling.

having started doing that on a pc, i cannot imagine doing it on an mpc. it strikes me as easier, better and faster on pc. however, that's simply experientialism - since i was rasied on timestretching via pc, it's what i will always do because it, to me, is more logical.

2nd, reversals. this will be very short and sweet - microsoft sound recorder, which comes with most windows os's, has a reverse function. how hard is it to simply import your samples already reversed? nuff said.

3rd. zoning. again, done easier, faster and more precisely on the computer. with programs like recycle and acid 5.0 available (render each track as different file, anyone?) why do we even need to spend the time zoning on an mpc when the files can already be zoned and pgmed through bluebox BEFORE EVEN LOADING THE SAMPLES ONTO THE 1k? this has saved me countless hours.

normally, i have chosen a tempo before i even turn on my mpc, as i'm editing a potential sample in acid. all i have to do is set the tempo on the mpc and there i go - everything is loaded onto my 1k ready to be programmed, prezoned, prereversed, prefiltered and sometimes preeffected.

while in the mpc i create a reason accompaniment file linked via midi synch. this way, i can interpolate and get creative with my own samples, building on what i've started from and really going nuts with synths and badass dr rex cut ups. often i create an additional hat or ride track on rex that rides over the drums i have programmed on my 1k. drums, bass and sample (the rudimentary elements of a pre2000's hip hop song) are all done on my 1k. the rest, the subtle synths, the nice accoustic overtones are all done using reason as a sound module.

i think i should branch off here to say that there is a major major distinction to be made here. THE MPC 1K IS BEST USED WITH A COMPUTER AS A SUPPLIMENTARY DAW, SOUND MODULE AND EDITOR. if you choose to make beats without the obvious technological advancement provided in software via pcs or macs, PLEASE choose a 2000, 2000xl, MV8000, 3000, or 4000. you'll be so much happier.

the mpc 1k is a segue for computer producers into the world of hardware - it has all the benefits of hardware yet requires you to keep your foot in the door of the growing software necessity. i love my mpc1000. while i was a computer producer i grew sick of clicking, clicking, clicking. the 1k gave me just what i needed - a break from the mouse to create the hip hop element, while maintaining a strong experimental, electronica edge via computer.

perhaps the 1k is not suited for the rudimentary, 90s hip hop producer. it is not a DAW.

it is a wonderful device meant to have a sidekick - the pc.

hi yo silver....
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By sonikboom Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:01 pm
well put, it gets me through what i need so i never complain about my blue and red beauty. and hell i still dont even know what zoning is haha so eff it i dont need it im happy with the way it is.
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By metafor Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:35 pm
Very well said. I started with a korg ES-1, and didn't like it , and eventually moving to Acid 4, and loved it. But after awhile it felt like something was missing. After debating whether not to get the 1k. I decided to get it, and have loved it eversince. I do use the 1k with my computer, but not for the obvious reasons. I'll usually just use it to track out. Occasionally I'll use Acid to do some editing, but very rarely now. I just bought an ASR 10, and I'm loving using it alongside my 1k. The 1k was definately meant to be computer friendly, but it works just fine on its own (w/ no pc).

By ONE Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:40 pm
I agree. The 1k is dope, but there is only one flaw about it to me and that's the timing. I don't care about timestretch and zoning and all that. I just want to see if Akai will add something timing related in the next OS. If not. I don't got a year or two to wait for them to do so.

Having access to other MPC"s has really spoiled me, cause I never noticed the timing when I first had the 1k, now it bugs the sh!t out of me.
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By Capshun Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:08 pm
on chopping, i find is easier to chop on my 1000 then on the computer, and FASTER, i dont remember the last time i did on on my laptop, EXTRACT is crack
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By bhunt Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:10 pm
Capshun wrote:on chopping, i find is easier to chop on my 1000 then on the computer, and FASTER, i dont remember the last time i did on on my laptop, EXTRACT is crack


you are correct when I chop hella fast on the MPC and I like it better too becaue I can preview the next chop with the other buttons so I can get a fell how the pads will respond. also once you master the to and from buttons you can have a sample looping in under a min.
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By Antonym Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:32 pm
^ ^ matter of preference

i haven't even tried the above method. i will in the near future, though. i like the idea of being able to compare the pads in relation to one another - this is one thing computer zoning lacks.

By kingquota Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:02 pm
i dont use my PC, hardly, very rarely

i'll use it to timestretch occasionaly, and record. i dont use midi, or other controller based software.

after your post im considering it. what program would you recommend?
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By swishaman Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:04 pm
well said....


as a kid grown up on PC's...I prerfer it to just a standalone DAW....
times bring change's and those who stay at pace with it..stay on top....
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By Antonym Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:23 pm
start with reason, then move into ableton live and vsts.

reason is incredibly intuitive, and alongside the mpc is quite a powerful module.

pick up an m-audio uno for 40 bucks if you need a usb interface....and enjoy.

By pad-ophiliac Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:37 pm
Antonym wrote:^ ^ matter of preference

i haven't even tried the above method. i will in the near future, though. i like the idea of being able to compare the pads in relation to one another - this is one thing computer zoning lacks.


you still haven't tried that shit yet? i figured you would have by now. its quick and easy but its all preference anyway. i like being able to quicly manual chop on the 1k but on the other hand most of the time it wouldn't do me much good because i can't stretch on the 1k and for me thats the only reason its quicker for me to use software. if i have to stratch anyway then i might as well go ahes and chop while i'm there. this method doesn't bother me at all but if we do ever get the update then i will for sure do everything on the mpc except for trackin shit out.

By vladdymac Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:22 am
My boy made a hot album all samples wit da 1k my beats n everyone else said my beats are hot and all I use is a 1k so when all you new age producer like yall call it talk bout all these programs and effects it sound like a crutch like yall aint shit with out em and yall probably aint and I heard a lot of yall beats u aint shit with da effects (pause) just think bout what yall saying if this was 92 94 b4 da programs and reasons and acid yall wouldn't be able to make no beats right that's what yall saying and da timing on da 1k is one of tighest I ever seen n I touch a lot sequencer

By pad-ophiliac Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:45 am
vladdymac wrote:My boy made a hot album all samples wit da 1k my beats n everyone else said my beats are hot and all I use is a 1k so when all you new age producer like yall call it talk bout all these programs and effects it sound like a crutch like yall aint **** with out em and yall probably aint and I heard a lot of yall beats u aint **** with da effects (pause) just think bout what yall saying if this was 92 94 b4 da programs and reasons and acid yall wouldn't be able to make no beats right that's what yall saying and da timing on da 1k is one of tighest I ever seen n I touch a lot sequencer


i aint heard any of your beats. must be real easy for ya to talk smack about other people shit when you aint got nothin to show. you can't excpect anyone here to take you seriously with that bullshit.

By vladdymac Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:22 am
I afraid 2 showcase beats on da internet none of my beats are copywritten and people steal beats(true story) sounds like I'm coppin a plea but it aint and I really don't have a computer (another reason why I don't use programs and all that) I browse this forum on my sidekick plus you sound real upset did I offend you I didn't mean 2 knock yall I guess its all preference right but I don't understand what's the purpose of having an mpc if use a computer 2 chop and add effects and yall think the timing suck I'm just saying maybe yall suck cuz there's people in da rap game with way more basic equipment than the 1k making hot music and a lot of money its all about if you that ear

By vladdymac Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:27 am
I'm afraid 2 showcase beats on da internet none of my beats are copywritten and people steal beats (true story) sounds like I'm coppin a plea but it aint and I really don't have a computer (another reason why I don't use programs and all that) I browse this forum on my sidekick plus you sound real upset did I offend you I didn't mean 2 knock yall I guess its all preference right but I don't understand what's the purpose of having an mpc if use a computer 2 chop and add effects and yall think the timing suck I'm just saying maybe yall suck cuz there's people in da rap game with way more basic equipment than the 1k making hot music and a lot of money its all about if you that ear yall making sound like cuz I don't have programs my beats aint hot yall hurt my feelings f*ck a timestrecth I rather strecth out a chick