is there a way to track out beats without midi?

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is there a way to track out beats without midi?

By kingquota Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:47 am
im having problems here;

i want to record beats to my computer, each track individually.

i want to use the digital outs, doing each instrument at a time. yes i know it takes time, but there is a reason why i want to do it this way.

im using adobe audition 1.5

i can get it to record, but when it comes to trying to line up my tracks, its like im mixing the whole thing all over again. is there a way to syncronize my output with the input of adobe audition without using midi?

yes i did a serach, but i didn't find anything useful,m and was hoping for a more direct response.
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By Lampdog Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:07 am
record 1 bar of the metronome count on each track .
After recording all your tracks and having a 1 bar metronome count on each just line up the metronomes later on and all track will be in sync.

Think about, do it, have fun, good luck..

By kingquota Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:26 am
so the answer is no then?
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By Lampdog Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:47 am
That's not what I said. You didn't even try what I said just that quick did you?

By tiger vomitt Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:03 am
quota, do what lampdog says it works man

By sparq Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:16 am
Lampdog wrote:That's not what I said. You didn't even try what I said just that quick did you?
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By kingquota Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:59 am
dude, i throughly understand, and thats the method i am chosen to resort to. that method requires cutting/pasting, i just figured that there has to be a more precise way. i guess there isn't, i guess i should just get a midi supported soundcard.

the whole purpose of this thread was to find a definitive answer, yes i can, or no i cant. its clear, in order to get a result im hoping for, i'd have to go with midi. thanks for understanding.

dont take it to heart next time, shiiit
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By samuraisam Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:59 am
kingquota wrote:dude, i throughly understand, and thats the method i am chosen to resort to. that method requires cutting/pasting, i just figured that there has to be a more precise way. i guess there isn't, i guess i should just get a midi supported soundcard.

the whole purpose of this thread was to find a definitive answer, yes i can, or no i cant. its clear, in order to get a result im hoping for, i'd have to go with midi. thanks for understanding.

dont take it to heart next time, shiiit


what soundcard do you have? if you're trying to edit each track individually, and your soundcard doesnt have midi in/out it prolly isnt going to be worth it.

are your using mac or PC?

try getting an EMU 0404 if you're on PC. amazing value for money.

By kingquota Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:38 pm
^^

thanks man, appreaciate your recomendation. i'll do some research.

By mpc3000 Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:57 pm
"that method requires cutting/pasting, i just figured that there has to be a more precise way. i guess there isn't, i guess i should just get a midi supported soundcard."

Still not thinking? Lampdog's suggestion is likely to be more accurate than midi. With a short, steep-edge sample you can get near sample accurate alignment. With midi clock it can be as much as 200 samples off.

On top of that, it's not exactly a LOT of cutting and pasting. Well, actually no cutting and pasting. In any pro-multi-track software. Just click and drag. You can line up a track in 5 seconds.


" purpose of this thread was to find a definitive answer, yes i can, or no i cant"

Lampdog said yes. He even went beyond that by telling you HOW and you're still complaining?
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By DFENS Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:15 pm
What your could do is this.

Convert your song file in to one sequence.

Then solo each of those tracks, resampling them one at a time from the main out to the rec inputs (or use the digital in/out). Save each track (sample) on to the CF. Then transfer them via USB to your pc. Depending on how much space you have on your CF you may have to do them one at a time before recording the next track.

Before you do this add a sequence to the begining of you song file with a snare or something as a marker point for all of the tracks. That way the mpc will start recording (sampling) the tracks at the same time. This will save you a lot of trouble when you come to edit them in cool edit and also provide you a reference point if they dont all sync up exactly.

:wink:
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By DFENS Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:22 pm
this is pretty much what Lampdog said.

but doing it inside your 1K instead..

so when that snare hits on the 1st seq you added to the song, the 1K will automatically go in to record saving you some editing time later.

i'm not too sure if this will work using the mpc1k digi in/out 'cos i never tried it. but i'm guessing it does work b'cos the digi out should just mirror the main stereo outs.

you'll prob need the 1K memory expansion to be able to work this depending on the length of your beat.

also, remember you have the option of recording (resampling) your tracks in mono. this can save you file space and time when tranfering across the USB.
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By Lampdog Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:28 pm
kingquota wrote:dude, i throughly understand, and thats the method i am chosen to resort to. that method requires cutting/pasting, i just figured that there has to be a more precise way. i guess there isn't, i guess i should just get a midi supported soundcard.

the whole purpose of this thread was to find a definitive answer, yes i can, or no i cant. its clear, in order to get a result im hoping for, i'd have to go with midi. thanks for understanding.

dont take it to heart next time, shiiit


Dude, you want a definitive answer huh? If I had said "yes", you would have still been wondering "HOW". If I said "no" you might have been wondering "WHY". I've done it before a few times when I only had a 2 channel interface. I had midi but I wanted to be more sample accurate like 3k said. I put a 1 bar metronome count at the beginning of every sequence, tracked them all into Vegas, slid each track into position (lined up via the visual metronome) and it was cake from there.

You asked a question in an open forum, you going to get an answer, just 'cause it's not formatted/articulated how you want don't front on the possible help that YOU asked for.

I didn't take it to heart, that's you man. That's all you.

By kingquota Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:45 pm
mpc3000 wrote: Still not thinking? Lampdog's suggestion is likely to be more accurate than midi. With a short, steep-edge sample you can get near sample accurate alignment. With midi clock it can be as much as 200 samples off.

flowers, man, maybe i should have just asked if this method is better than midi, cause midi is easy, and once you have it running right, little room for error. im looking to get a midi supported soundcard, so i worded my question wrong=.. if i got a no, then obvisiouly i would have no choice, keep doing what lampdog suggested, which is what im already doing. or i could go ahead and look into some midi supported cards, which is the interior motif of this post

so its clear lampdog, i did infact just want to hear a yes or a no, not a technique that im already familiar with. im glad we finally have this clear. from the topic title, it was always a question.

kingquota wrote:so the answer is no then?


and thats the reason why i responsed the way i did in my first post.
Last edited by kingquota on Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.

By sparq Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:54 pm
fam, the easiest and quickest way to accomplish what you want, imo, is to just get a midi interface. that is what keeps everything tied together on time. interfaces are rather inexpensive now a days, depending on what you want. connecting and setting it up is very easy. once you get one and need help holla at me.
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