Release?

What is the purpose of the release feature in the SLICE mode?

In the manual it says:

This sets the length that is added to the release after dividing a sample. If
you set this to larger value, the release of the divided sample will be long and the sample data will be larger in size as well.

Can someone please explain this to me?

ADSR - maybe

attack of the sample.
decay of the sample.
sustain of the sample.
release of the sample back down to nothing/zero volume.

I don't think it has anything to do with ADSR, but thanks anyway.

Does anyone in here ever mess with the release feature when they slice their samples?

Well, a logic thing would be that it keep a bit of the sample that´s right behind the slice end point which later could be used as release portion in the programs envelope to create a smoother transition between slices. A higher release value would keep a larger portion of the sample as tail.
But my experience is that it just adds a snippet of silence behind the slice, which is totally useless, therefore I always keep my release value on zero.

if you set it to 100 it will add a strange effect to the sample try it!

ryssen wrote:it just adds a snippet of silence behind the slice, which is totally useless, therefore I always keep my release value on zero.

That's the "release" I was trying to get out into words. I phucked it up.

I´ve been messing with the slice release on some vocalsamples to exactly se what it does, laying the slice endpoint in the middle of a word gives a better illustration than when you chop a beat or phrase and place the endpoints in between as late as possible on the hit, often when it´s almost faded out.

It seems to me as the release multiplies the last couple of samples (digital audio samples, not the sampled sound) of the slice and applies some sort of tail to it. A sort of simulation of a ADSR release, so Lampdog was on to it. It sounds pretty much like shit though (on voice), metallic and ringing with the character of the ringning changing somewhat as the release value increased.

Will personally still keep the release value to zero.

That was exactly my guess also. On the 2kxl there is a thing called "end margin" and it add 30 sample points of silence to the end of a sample.
Sounds VERY similiar to the "release" thing.

From the 2kxl manual:

End margin:
This sets how much samples will be added to at the end of each sample. As the last portion of the sample will be dimished by the decay envelope when played with a pad, it is necessary to make the sample longer to play the section fully. The original sample name with suffixed number will be used as the new sample name.

i think it only adds silence for the reason ryssen pointed out: it's mainly used on drums where the end of the slice IS silent. try it with the slice point in the middle of a sound.

The Beat Conductor wrote:What is the purpose of the release feature in the SLICE mode?

In the manual it says:

This sets the length that is added to the release after dividing a sample. If
you set this to larger value, the release of the divided sample will be long and the sample data will be larger in size as well.

Can someone please explain this to me?

You call yourself 'the beat conducter' and u dont know that??

animalcub wrote:You call yourself 'the beat conducter' and u dont know that??:oops:

To be honest, this function is less self explanatory than many others as it behaves different depending on the source material you use it on.
Feels like a rather whack feature on the whole and I would be interested to hear from anyone using it creatively and/or with good results.
Might be used as an instant "air"/ambience effect instead of sampling ambiance, but the bad sound quality speaks against it. Even air, noise and crackles are hard to simulate just by duplicating a fraction of the sound.

i've tried it when slicing up a sample (not a break) and it adds a fake
ending for each chop that fades out (just like ryssen earlier described).

if you can't hear what it does try chopping something up like a vocal sample or strings and turn the release value up to like 50. you will hear each sample has a crappy faded out extra tail added.

if you've ever used recycle, its basically like a crappier version of the artificial tail that recycles adds to its chops...

Lampdog wrote:From the 2kxl manual:

End margin:
This sets how much samples will be added to at the end of each sample. As the last portion of the sample will be dimished by the decay envelope when played with a pad, it is necessary to make the sample longer to play the section fully. The original sample name with suffixed number will be used as the new sample name.

Now I understand. Thanks Lampdog.

animalcub wrote:You call yourself 'the beat conducter' and u dont know that??

I only use that name because I am a big fan of Madlib's work. I don't go around calling myself "The Beat Conductor."

don't get the two mix up . I had the 2000XL also and Lamp is right ,with the XL you have to set end margin at 30-35 to get a good chop read it in the beat making tutorial on 2000Xl, 1k is a little different why, I don't even know.I believe it was created in mind of sampling vocal phrase only (Release,in Slice mode)

DJ-T wrote:don't get the two mix up . I had the 2000XL also and Lamp is right ,with the XL you have to set end margin at 30-35 to get a good chop read it in the beat making tutorial on 2000Xl, 1k is a little different why, I don't even know.I believe it was created in mind of sampling vocal phrase only (Release,in Slice mode)

Yeah man, that's exactly why I said it was from the 2kxl manual, I know they intent of the function is generally the same BUT they work a little differently in each machine.

Beat Conductor, you know I wouldn't leave you hanging man. How's life treating you lately?