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By Dominique Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:34 am
I know when u chop a sample in to pieces the MPC changes the stereo sample to Mono. What are ways to get around that the making them back to Stereo. I know u could use trim and exract the samples but that takes for ever. Any way to do it with out triming on the MPC.

By Jenre Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:02 am
I think what actually happens when you chop a stereo sample (with the slice feature) is it just chops the left channel. So it doesn't actually convert to mono it just takes the left channel creating mono slices.

I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
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By Mr modnaR Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:13 am
split the sample into two mono samples, then use slice feature. you won't be able to recombine, but you can play them at the same time. lot of work, but that's the best way usually. :D

hope this helps.
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By ryssen Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:27 am
Mr modnaR wrote:split the sample into two mono samples, then use slice feature. you won't be able to recombine, but you can play them at the same time. lot of work, but that's the best way usually. :D

hope this helps.


I´ve seen nym talking about this too, but I think it sounds a little unsafe. Seems there are many possibilities that the sound will playback with phase problems. And are there a way to internally split a stereo sample in the MPC 1000 into seperate monos without resampling?

What are peoples actual experience on this?
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By Mr modnaR Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 am
Dominique wrote:Any way to do it with out triming on the MPC.


ryssen wrote:And are there a way to internally split a stereo sample in the MPC 1000 into seperate monos without resampling?


i meant do it on a pc or mac. true about the phase problems. i gave him a way to do it, not a way to do it well, i concede that. :wink: 8)
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By Antonym Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:18 pm
i've never had phase issues using that technique.

your other option is to forget the stereo field and just take the most well rounded channel. then just replicate the stereo field in your daw later when you track out. i'd honestly recommend just using your mpc as a monomachine if you're gonna have a lot going on, it gives you more breathing room.

however, dominique may want to try the first trick.
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By dbz Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:34 am
when in slice mode, hit edit and extract the current slice.
this will keep the sample in stereo.
you have to do it once for each slice though.
i often convert the whole lot to a mono program and extract any others i want in stereo as well.
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By ryssen Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:59 am
dbz wrote:when in slice mode, hit edit and extract the current slice.
this will keep the sample in stereo.


To avoid possible confusion:
When in Trim mode, hit edit and choose extract to lift the selected part of the sample.

There is no way to reach the Extract function when you are in Slice mode, so don´t come here asking where that function is.
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By dbz Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:57 pm
ryssen wrote:
dbz wrote:when in slice mode, hit edit and extract the current slice.
this will keep the sample in stereo.


To avoid possible confusion:
When in Trim mode, hit edit and choose extract to lift the selected part of the sample.

There is no way to reach the Extract function when you are in Slice mode, so don´t come here asking where that function is.


the function is there, i use it all the time

try this

go to trim

hit slice and set the no of slices and press do it

you are now in slice mode, select a slice and press edit (f6) then you can extract the slice and it will be in stereo.

simple
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By ryssen Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:42 am
Sorry dbz!!! I presumed it was a typo by you and not having the MPC in the same appartment as the computer I didn´t check with reality before I blurbed.

I myself very seldom sample in stereo and I presumed that it was the straight trim extract that kept the sample in stereo as stereo samplers whine about the tedious proces of chopping in stereo. All I´ve ever done in the Edit widow in Slice mode is merging and splitting slices.
So I talked out of my ass and should shut up, as should the lazy people complaining about the tediousnes of stereo chopping, as dbz showed it´s a piece of cake.

Please accept the apologies from a former cocky ass russian.
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By Antonym Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:02 pm
stereo is really not worth it...
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By Balls Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:29 pm
Stereo is definetly worth it. I don't understand you Ant.. I sample almost everything in stereo, I don't find that 32 (16 stereo) Voices aren't enogh and i don't consider my productions minimalistic. Not at all.
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By ryssen Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:55 pm
I have to go with ant on this, but not on the issue of voice count, in my opinion stereo doesn´t add anything in 9 cases out of 10. On drums it´s plain useless unless you work with looped breaks where some breaks may sound better in stereo.
It´s a matter of personal taste and sound ideals, so there are no rights or wrongs. But one shouldn´t sample in stereo just because one can or think that stereo automaticaly sounds better or work better than mono just cause it´s "more" or "advanced".
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By TBonus76 Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:28 pm
ryssen wrote:in my opinion stereo doesn´t add anything in 9 cases out of 10.


I would say 6 out of 10, but depends on the sample, of course.


ryssen wrote:On drums it´s plain useless unless you work with looped breaks where some breaks may sound better in stereo.
It´s a matter of personal taste and sound ideals, so there are no rights or wrongs. But one shouldn´t sample in stereo just because one can or think that stereo automaticaly sounds better or work better than mono just cause it´s "more" or "advanced".


Co-sign... people always assume stereo is better, as if it's automatically superior. I can remember countless times that clients would bring in multitracks for me to mix, and I would notice that they would have something that they had sampled in stereo even though it was mono to begin with. Even after I would explain to them that since it was a mono source, the left and right channels were exactly the same, so it's not really stereo, some of them would still insist that I leave it as a "stereo" track, because they thought that was somehow better. Some people just dont get it, lol.
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By DJ-T Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:35 pm
when sampling in stereo,understand that this Frequency is higher in modulation (Stereo), than (Mono)amplitude modulation. This is were you get the AM Radio (mono sound) and FM (Stereo sound) So the two are different in sounding. It's just hard sometimes for the ear to hear unless .

Listen to a AM Station, Sounds are more muffled. Listen to FM Station,and sounds is alot clearer and cleaner. Without getting so Techky 8)