Need help saving Mixer changes

I understand that you can record mixer changes to a track, but that is more for automated moves. I was wondering if there is a way to save the mixer settings without having to move them during record. I think I was told at one time that it could be done when you save all programs and files, but that's not exactly what I want to do either, since it takes up more space on the drive. Thanks for reading!

save entire memory

don't worry about space, odds are you have tons

Doesn't save entire memory save my programs again? I don't need doubles of programs that I already have on my drive. Any other options?

yeah it saves everything again, it's the entire mem.

sounds like you need to reconfigure your saving plans...

jrkelly99 wrote:Doesn't save entire memory save my programs again? I don't need doubles of programs that I already have on my drive.

The "Save entire memory" does not double save your programs, if your programs are named the same as those on CF / Disc they´ll not be affected. But you want them to be.
Just overwrite your old programs and samples, as you chose "Save entire memory" just flip "Replace same" from "NO" to "YES" and the old files will be replaced by the ones placed in RAM with the same name.
Chances are you´ll encounter a "Directory Error" message at the end of the saving cycle, then just hit "Do it" again and it´ll save just fine. If you want to avoid the "Directory error", delete the old folder and make a new before you save (backup in another folder first though), check out TBonus76´s post on this subject as he has got the skills and tricks on that subject carefully described.

But all on saving is in the "Manual", and one can do some "Experimenting" to find out what fit ones needs best. I suggest you try things out for yourself and discover how different modes of saving influence your projects and CF / Disc, work with copies of your projects and a separate folder though.

ryssen wrote:Chances are you´ll encounter a "Directory Error" message at the end of the saving cycle, then just hit "Do it" again and it´ll save just fine.

I think that re-saving like that, although it appears to work, causes data corruption, and may be the cause of the many problems people are having with their CF cards. Of course I have no way to confirm this, but I know that since I stopped just re-saving after the directory error, I am no longer getting corruption.

ryssen wrote:If you want to avoid the "Directory error", delete the old folder and make a new before you save (backup in another folder first though), check out TBonus76´s post on this subject as he has got the skills and tricks on that subject carefully described.

Wooohoo!! I got saving skillz!!

It's all about the "refresh" (I think I might have to start calling it "TFresh") technique.

ryssen wrote:

jrkelly99 wrote:Doesn't save entire memory save my programs again? I don't need doubles of programs that I already have on my drive.

The "Save entire memory" does not double save your programs, if your programs are named the same as those on CF / Disc they´ll not be affected. But you want them to be.
Just overwrite your old programs and samples, as you chose "Save entire memory" just flip "Replace same" from "NO" to "YES" and the old files will be replaced by the ones placed in RAM with the same name.
Chances are you´ll encounter a "Directory Error" message at the end of the saving cycle, then just hit "Do it" again and it´ll save just fine. If you want to avoid the "Directory error", delete the old folder and make a new before you save (backup in another folder first though), check out TBonus76´s post on this subject as he has got the skills and tricks on that subject carefully described.

But all on saving is in the "Manual", and one can do some "Experimenting" to find out what fit ones needs best. I suggest you try things out for yourself and discover how different modes of saving influence your projects and CF / Disc, work with copies of your projects and a separate folder though.

Even if I go and save entire program and also replace the same to no, that doesn't actually mean that it won't save double since I'm pulling programs from different folders on the drive. Atleast last I checked.

jrkelly99 wrote:Even if I go and save entire program and also replace the same to no, that doesn't actually mean that it won't save double since I'm pulling programs from different folders on the drive. Atleast last I checked.

I find it quite hard to really understand what you mean by this. But about the double saving if you don´t have the program and seq´s / project in the same folder, then yes. If you already have the active program / samples in another folder then "Save entire memory" into another folder will create a duplicate. I presumed you were talking about resaving in a folder already containing all the files for the project / track.

How you save is all about what your needs are, and as shown, what kind of structure you have on your CF / disc. I myself doesn´t have any ready made programs, I have all samples categorized and pick what I need to a certain project and create a program containing the samples I use. Then I save entire memory into a folder and keeping my working project only within that folder. So the samples are being saved in duplicates, but as my program only contains the samples I use within the project it´s not filling up my disc as there may be 3 - 8 drums in a program, depending on layering and such, as opposed to 2 - 4 banks full to the brim with drums as a premade "allround" program may contain.