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This might sound stupid to some but i dont have the answer. What is this dirty sounding drums and how can a kid get em? So far i've 200 dollars and goin I want an mpc 1000 (i'm a new believer). never owned one be4, so will it be worth it? i've got about 100 records thats all, i dont have alot money but i want this my music influrences are Dj Hi-Tek, 9th wonda, kats that did sounds for Jean Grae new EP and stuff around that sound so what will a kid need for this sound?

THX in Advance

If you want to make tracks like that, you need a sampling drum machine such as an MPC2000 or XL, or even a 1000. You will also need a turntable to play your vinyl with... if you don't have a home stereo with a phono preamp for the turntable then you will need a DJ mixer also. An equalizer will help also so that you can tweak the sound of the samples before you sample them. Eventually if you want to build a full studio you will need more but if you just want to get started making beats this is what you need. Hope it helps. Uno

I know the 60 better than I know the rest, so it is faster to me, But I don't feel comfortable voting based on just that,

Plas I ahve an expanded 60, which is closer to the 3000 than the stock 60, so I might be faster on the 3000 for all I know.

ANy MPC is good. I think only the 4000 would slow you down because of all the options.

if I was starting out with no gear I'd go for a MPC1000 no question, no question at all - more acessible, more sampling time, useful fx, extra outputs and spdif included, easier connectivity, USB smart cards...

if I couldn't afford a MPC1000 I'd get a cheap used 2000xl but u prolly need full memory, Zip, outputs and fx which all cost extra...

as for the dirt factor - I wouldn't get hung on that - HiTEk's stuff (which i like a lot) sounds pretty smooth and clean to me, the MPC1000 can sound pretty much dirty or clean or whatever you like, depends more on the source material and external really - a cheap compressor like a dbx266 may help get dirt on a budget too...

Richard

as for dirty sounding drums, you could basicly do that with any sampler.
BTW: why does everyone always ask for "Dirty" or "Grimey" sounding stuff? is that the new fad?

The dirt on the 60 comes through when overdriving the sample input I think.

If you sample with the meter peaking at 75% your samples sound real clean.

I sampled a section of a tape me and my friends were listening to and my friend ( very knowledgable and a two time 60 owner) was surprised at how clean the sample was in sound. He couldn't believe it.

if you've got a tape deck, you've got a great analog distortion device for 'dirty' drums. Use a fresh cassette. Record the bit you want to sample into the tape deck so that the meter spends most, but not all, of it's time in the red. Play back the cassette into the 1000. Cheap and effective dirt.

Cassette 4-Tracks are still around because natural tape distortion really smooths out your recordings and gives them that elusive analog 'warmth'