Chopping same sample

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Chopping same sample

By Phunnymoney Tue May 27, 2008 4:39 am
Just say i sample some piano notes as one long sample, can i then go and assign that sample to multiple pads then edit the start/end points to isolate the different notes on each pad like a ASR 10 does ?
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Re: Chopping same sample

By Lampdog Tue May 27, 2008 7:19 am
the asr10 has non destructive chopping. Meaning you can make multiple copies of the same sample and the copies are actually copie parameters and not actual copied data, so the copies take up like I think 5k each or something like that. the original sample stays at 0-100 sample value while the copies can be start to end anywhere therein.

MPC's don't do non destructive chopping. The copies you make will be 100% data copies, not virtual non destructive copies like the asr10.
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Re: Chopping same sample

By Lampdog Tue May 27, 2008 11:54 am
That would REVOLUTIONARY if mpc's would get that standard in every OS.

On my ASR10 I used that ALOT. Non destructive chopping, virtual copies of samples that take up virtually no extra memory, yep.
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Re: Chopping same sample

By thedvs01 Tue May 27, 2008 11:57 am
Lampdog wrote:That would REVOLUTIONARY if mpc's would get that standard in every OS.

On my ASR10 I used that ALOT. Non destructive chopping, virtual copies of samples that take up virtually no extra memory, yep.


JJ OS 2 has it - it's a cool feature. You can also do multiple chops with overlapping regions with the feature since it's not actually splitting into separate files

JJ OS1 does not do this however
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Re: Chopping same sample

By hyp Tue May 27, 2008 4:08 pm
that's a pretty slick feature thedvs, didn't know JJOS2 pulled it off. my only gripe with non destructive chopping would be that i wouldn't have individual control over each chop -- meaning if i wanted to throw each piece into a wave editor and add some spices here and there, it wouldn't be possible... right? could you timestretch a non destructive chop in OS2?
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Re: Chopping same sample

By Lampdog Tue May 27, 2008 4:33 pm
hyp wrote:meaning if i wanted to throw each piece into a wave editor

That would be throwing an actual sample in a wave editor, so make a physical copy then.
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Re: Chopping same sample

By thedvs01 Tue May 27, 2008 5:23 pm
hyp wrote:that's a pretty slick feature thedvs, didn't know JJOS2 pulled it off. my only gripe with non destructive chopping would be that i wouldn't have individual control over each chop -- meaning if i wanted to throw each piece into a wave editor and add some spices here and there, it wouldn't be possible... right? could you timestretch a non destructive chop in OS2?


nah you couldn't

all the destructive features of the trim screen (time stretch, pitch shift, whatever) can only be done on destructive chops

you could however apply destructive processes to the main sample, and then non-destructively chop it

any trim screen process though requires an individual chop

all other non-destructive processes are still possible though -- tune, filter, etc. Plus OS2 gives you full ADSR envelope control
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Re: Chopping same sample

By Lampdog Wed May 28, 2008 6:19 am
thedvs01 wrote:
hyp wrote:that's a pretty slick feature thedvs, didn't know JJOS2 pulled it off. my only gripe with non destructive chopping would be that i wouldn't have individual control over each chop -- meaning if i wanted to throw each piece into a wave editor and add some spices here and there, it wouldn't be possible... right? could you timestretch a non destructive chop in OS2?


nah you couldn't

all the destructive features of the trim screen (time stretch, pitch shift, whatever) can only be done on destructive chops

you could however apply destructive processes to the main sample, and then non-destructively chop it

any trim screen process though requires an individual chop

all other non-destructive processes are still possible though -- tune, filter, etc. Plus OS2 gives you full ADSR envelope control


yeah trim screen has always been destructive on mpc's
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