An interesting midi Idea. PLEASE RESPOND

Ok I am doing some research on mpc's because i'm thinking about buying one. I am trying to learn as much as I can about all its capabilities, and in my deep thought came a question. U know how in serato you can record your voice and then control it off the vinyl etc right. Or just control anything for that matter. Well i was trying to think if it is possible to control sound (specifically voice/acapella) using a turntable of sorts from an mpc. EX: doesn't the denon 3700 have midi capabilities??? U see where i'm goin? And what about the numark V7. Is it possible to assign these sounds to some sort of a vinyl control turntable? I don't know how useful ppl might think it is, But shoot I think that'd be pretty tRiK



Let me know Geniuses.

Or let me know if this is totally a usless Idea cuz you could just connect this to that and that to this and wallah

PS: Anyone use the mpc 5000 in live sessions? Is it viable? and more importantly... Fun? thanks

I don't think you can do much to samples over MIDI except trigger them and control their volume.. SOunds like a fun thing to mess with though. get a nice rack sampler and it might have the functionality you're looking for...

anyone else?

~Steve

you're limited to whatever midi messsages a given device can read/output...for example you can control MPCS sound banks, stop, play, FX,, internal mixer settings with an external midi controller.


if a turntable got a midi out you could probably assign some of those functions to be controlled from the turntable, but that's about as far as it goes.

serato software and controller was designed for that specific task

So then the question is. can use a midi turntable, ie the new numark v7 or the denon 3700 to control sounds from and MPC???

How do you want to control them?
What do you want to do to them with the MIDI data?

Once you tell us that we can tell you if the MPC will do that using incoming MIDI information.

I must be explaining this wrong. Ok this is the scenario i''m thinking of. lets say I record a quik vocal sample. I say "ahhh yeahhh" in the mic and record it on an mpc. Is there a simulation turntable like the numark v7 or the denon 3700 that have a midi out that could plug into the mpc midi in and then scratch the vocal sample etc? does that make sense? i see a lot of possibilities with that, however I thnk the answer maybe NO.....

Anything?

I don't know about the availability of MIDI turntables.
I do know that it isn't possible to control the direction of playback in realtime of a sample via MIDI on my MPC2500. 5000? 4000? maybe. check online manuals. I do know that many users are asking JJ for more MIDI control. . .

~Steve

The numark v7 sends midi over USB, so can't connect directly to an mpc (which only use USB for file transfer, midi goes over midi cables.) You'd need your PC to forward the midi signals to the mpc.

I could be wrong, but I don't think any mpc allows you to scratch a sample via midi. As mentioned above, you can play/stop sequences and trigger samples, adjust FX and mixer levels. But not AFAIK do things like reverse and restart in realtime, which would be needed to simulate scratching a sample.

You could definitely write something using Max/MSP which could use the signals from one of those turntables to manipulate samples on a computer but if you're doing that you might was well just use the serato software that comes with the turntable! (Max/MSP would let you do more of course, but for the basics it seems more worthwhile just to use what comes with it and is already written)

You can almost certainly do everything you want using Ableton Live, without one of the turntables you're talking about, just a midi controller with knobs/sliders mapped to a sample

yes thank you! all makes sense. great help. I'ma drop a note in akai's sugg box.

TYTYTY

it's not possible to scratch using midi turntable and mpc

however while back there was thread around here, talking about emulating scratching using MPC. but I believe that was done using combination of samples, FX and some other shit. mpc dont got scratching emulator built in.

some roland sp series got that beam thing which allows you to control FX using your hand motion.

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Whenever I DJ I just set my MPC next to my turntable and scratch records. If the MPC had the aforementioned function I would wonder how capable it would be of reproducing such a task. The amount of midi data might cause the OS to freeze.