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By LarryB Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:40 am
hey dudes,

probably a stupid question.. :oops: i apologize in advance. lol

but anyways.

so ive been making beets on the 500 for a while now, looking into getting a 2500/1000 in the near future, along with an mbox/protools bundle

i used to go over to a buddys and make beats, record them out of the stereo out of the mpc into the mbox, right into protools..
the thing is, im confused when trying to figure out the best possible method for tracking each individual track out into protools using an 8 channel mixer in the equation.

the part that confuses me is mainly this :

would the ideal and proper way to properly track the beat out be by : running the midi out of the mbox into the mpc midi in (for the beat clock mainly).. and then i know i can do the stereo outs left and right on the mpc into the ins on the mbox, but say i wanted to use all 8 outs on an mpc 2500, i cant figure out how i incorporate the 8 channel mixer back into the mbox/protools...because i would still need the mbox......any feedbacks appreciated hombres. peace

fml
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By Lampdog Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:35 am
Mixer audio out to mbox audio input.

Maybe you mean 8 channels into Hotools. Might wanna get an audio interface that can handle 8 channels into daw.
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By LarryB Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:30 am
thanks, lamp.. not the biggest protools fan im guessing? LOL

mixer audio out to mbox input of course.. im retarded sometimes man.

that being said, to get the beat clock recording all of the 8 tracks at once, while i have the 8 audio outs on the mp going into the 8 in the mixer, would i midi the interface into the mixers midi?...
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By Lampdog Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:42 pm
What exact gear do you have? I can't say what you can ultimately do if I don't know each piece of gear and it's model.

You gotta know your gear and it's capabilities. Use that info to your advantage
when connecting everything..
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By Metatron72 Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:34 pm
I count 6 inputs on the Mbox 3 Pro, counting the combo jacks on the front, perfect amount for the 1000, only 2 short on a 2500, and the mixer is always a help there.

Even a cheap Mackie can add some warmth to the signal and it great to have some hands on channel controls.

And like I always do when you come through sir-

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"Who's f@#*ing playing for second place today?!?!"

Larry Bird 1988

(He really said that to the whole locker room :lol: :nod: )
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By LarryB Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:24 pm
hahaha word meta!
the hick was a boss like none other.

man im still confused though!

if i want the beat clock setup, would i run the midi from the mixer instead of the midi from the mp, into the mbox?

:?
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By Lampdog Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:02 pm
Audio doesn't use midi cable.

Midi doesn't use audio cable.

Midi is not audio. Basic, you should now this already though.

Look at the mpc studio routing diagram at the front of maybe every mpc manual.
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By SimonInAustralia Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:50 pm
What is the point of the mixer?

Why not just run straight into the MBox?


I wouldn't rely on MIDI clock for sync.

The mixer would not need MIDI clock, unless maybe it had automation or tempo synced effects, but that is doubtful.
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By Metatron72 Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:22 am
LarryB wrote:i most likely will just run the 2 outs on the mixer into the mbox...

i was just confused on if i wanted to sync the clocks up, how i would do that WHILE incorporating the mixer


What Lamp is saying is that the MIDI cables and MIDI sync aspect are wholly separate from your audio. So the mixer being involved has no effect or bearing on the MIDI at all.

And if your reasoning on wanting to use the mixer for say it's EQ's or other FX rather than plug direct to the MBox, totally good reason, totally doable. Again your MIDI would just go MPC to Mbox, while the audio cables would go MPC to Mixer to Mbox.

So you're fine with the set up you're picturing.

One more, the Legend was a hell of a passer

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By LarryB Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:36 am
thanks again meta! those gifs! :popcorn:

thanks for anyone else to popped into the subject i started, i really appreciate it.

if i dont get an mbox with more than 2 channels..which i probably wont, im just kind of bummed i wont be able to track out each track at a time........

id probably just have to do each at a time, solo'd or muted.

Im just a little worried though, because the clock wouldnt be set up, might it be a problem trying to track each one at a time? i dont know fukk. i'll figure it out i guess lol