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By mute Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:52 am
Hi I really want to learn how to use mpc's and all this stuff but I dont know anything about it all I know is some artist that produce music and and I found it so amazing. Im in a band and I want to explore new methods in producing music. What is the essential gear i should get to start and learn?

Thanks
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By MeSoHordey Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:17 am
Ah, you want to learn the mysterious ancient and forbidden art of sandwich making. Well, young padawan, you must be persistent in your endeavors and start along a path of simple but endless reading. The path is long but will take many scenic detours. Not all side paths will be productive, but because you are only reading and not buying none will be expensive either.

There will be point when you will know what sandwich to build. It will occur after much wax on and wax off. Sandwich meat, bread type and condiments all will be clear. You will still not catch the fly with chopsticks but you will be ready to invest in a piece of equipment. Maybe it will be a new model, maybe an old model. Wax on wax off reading will illuminate this decision.

Start by reading everything here:
http://tweakheadz.com/posts/for-noobs/

Additional reading search through the free posts and tutorials here:
Http://mpc-tutor.com

For extra credit:
Watch every thing that you can on youtube under the search "mpc tutorials".

When you are ready, come back and tell us which sandwich you will make and why.
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By Lampdog Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:37 am
MeSoHordey wrote:Watch every thing that you can on youtube .

There are some pretty clueless, dry voiced and plain boring, self centered, loving to hear themselves talk on youtube ass peoples. If they aren't to the point in 20 seconds, close the vid, **** that, (don't have a twitter account but I'mma hashtag it anyway #pointless, stupid and not helping. Nobody gut time for dat (your story).
By mute Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:46 am
Ill-Green wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:


What type of artist inspired you to the MPC? Or maybe you like samplers and loop pedals better? Let us know.


I saw that skrillex guy I thought he was good lol. well I actually was looking for some innovation in making new sound, and I saw this dude with a trigger and a laptop making some weirdly beautiful music and a lot of guitar players and bands keep covering his songs on you tube.
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By mute Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:48 am
MeSoHordey wrote:Ah, you want to learn the mysterious ancient and forbidden art of sandwich making. Well, young padawan, you must be persistent in your endeavors and start along a path of simple but endless reading. The path is long but will take many scenic detours. Not all side paths will be productive, but because you are only reading and not buying none will be expensive either.

There will be point when you will know what sandwich to build. It will occur after much wax on and wax off. Sandwich meat, bread type and condiments all will be clear. You will still not catch the fly with chopsticks but you will be ready to invest in a piece of equipment. Maybe it will be a new model, maybe an old model. Wax on wax off reading will illuminate this decision.

Start by reading everything here:
http://tweakheadz.com/posts/for-noobs/

Additional reading search through the free posts and tutorials here:
Http://mpc-tutor.com

For extra credit:
Watch every thing that you can on youtube under the search "mpc tutorials".

When you are ready, come back and tell us which sandwich you will make and why.



Thank you Master for the enlightenment I shall discover the art with your guidance.

Seriously thanks man.
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By MeSoHordey Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:02 am
Lamp is right about youtube. It's pretty hit or miss. If you're looking to do skrillex type stuff, I'm not sure a self-contained mpc is your best bet. They have limited effects. You might want to explore working in a daw with a simple usb midi contorller to start.
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By crossings Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:09 am
it's actually quite possible to make a skrillex style song with an MPC... basically you just sample a bunch of synth sounds on the 16 pads... then you place the MPC on the floor and tap-dance on top of the pads barefoot like a raving madman with one toe occasionally holding down the NOTE REPEAT button. yeah, there's a bit of a learning curve, but pretty much anything is possible with an MPC.
By mute Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:18 am
MeSoHordey wrote:Lamp is right about youtube. It's pretty hit or miss. If you're looking to do skrillex type stuff, I'm not sure a self-contained mpc is your best bet. They have limited effects. You might want to explore working in a daw with a simple usb midi contorller to start.


crossings wrote:it's actually quite possible to make a skrillex style song with an MPC... basically you just sample a bunch of synth sounds on the 16 pads... then you place the MPC on the floor and tap-dance on top of the pads barefoot like a raving madman with one toe occasionally holding down the NOTE REPEAT button. yeah, there's a bit of a learning curve, but pretty much anything is possible with an MPC.


Thanks guru's I'll take note of these things. Anyways any suggestions on who I should listen to for influence?
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By Lampdog Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:37 am
Whatever makes your head nod. Dissect the instruments, sounds and drums. Reproduce it and that's how most of us started.

We emulated something else we loved by dissecting it, ripping it apart in our heads, then emulating it to understand what it was our gear could do. In a few weeks I was addng my own stuff to my emulations. Few more weeks, I was able to start up my keyboard and make my own stuff, no more emulating because I was comfortable with all the functions of my gear (Asr10). Few more weeks and I actually had some of my friends heads nodding. Now, I know exactly what I want and how to do it without even thinking to hard.
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By Lampdog Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:46 am
We knew you were coming way before you even got here.


InspectahEX wrote:i thought if you're autistic you dont speak?

Lampdog wrote:That's "mute".

sirparksalot wrote:I laughed a good 5 minutes at this!!!! :lol:
By Clint Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:05 pm
Lamp et al are right about the YouTube vids being hit n miss. That's one reason why I started the MPC-TV thread which is somewhere around here. The videos posted there zone in on the capabilities of different MPC models, without the pointless chit chat. Not so much tutorials, more what can be done beat making from start to finish...
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By Ian Canefire Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:54 pm
Hi Mute,
like yourself I am in a band. I have had my MPC 4000 for 1 year and 4 months. I did the research for a full year before I purchased the MPC that was right for me. Part of that time was also spent making sure that I got one at the right price.
Lampdog and Clint aside, I think I watched every MPC 4000 video on Youtube and many of the others and I found them useful and created many videos myself for people who needed to know basics. Lots of basic things were just not out there in the video world.
1) figure out which MPC fits your needs. I strongly recommend the MPC4000 unless, you don't like heavy, older equipment.

If you want to make SKRLX sounds then you might want to think about the Roland MC-909. The MC909 has a parameter knob called Matrix...you set this knob to modulate (tweak the parameters) the Sample Machine Gun effect (SMG) and you will make the sample (The SKRLX sound) start and stop either fast or slow. It literally is a three step procedure...sample, turn SMG aand then spin the knob!

I own the MC909. I have learned that the ultimate hardware tandem is this...

Akai MPC4000
Roland MC909
Roland SH201 or Boss DR880
Behringer BCR2000

My vocalist loves singing into the MPC4000, The guitarist plays through the DR880 into the MPC4000, Percussion and keyboards and bass all sound great inside the MPC4000. The filters are worth the price of admission.

Speaking of price do not pay too much for this gear. Lots of MPC are on the market. Be patient and get one that works properly once you find the model you want.

It isn't only a great live setup it is also just a great studio creative work environment.

Watch my videos if you want to see the many MPC4000 functions. Also look at the ones made by ProfessorQuack. I think they are worth looking at.

Cheers,
Ian
By soundtech Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:26 pm
a lot of people on here advise for a 2000xl to start with.

i never had it but i think its a great one to keep and work on for a long time.

anyway i think you can never go wrong with the xl

if you understand these machines you will probably try a few and settle for the one you like and feel comfortable with most. the workflow is very simple

i started on a 2500 which was sold, and now i work on mpc 60 and 3000. i like those ones a lot!. i'd like to try a 4000 as well though.

get started with any (except the 5000), learn the machine, learn the workflow and you will then choose the one you like best

if you ask me, if i was buying my first mpc id get a 2000xl or a 4000. chances are you will keep them

cheers