I Need serious help (please)

What up? I am in a tough situation because I can't figure out exactly what I need or want. I have done research and still am lost, so I am hoping you guys could help me since you probably know a lot about MPCs.

I am trying to decide if I want the MPC 1000, 2000xl, 2500xl, or if I should just save myself money and go with a cp program like Fruity Loops.

I could technically afford to get the 2500xl but I would then be flat broke, or I could go with the 1000 and still have about 1,000$ left. What am I going to lose by getting the 1000 as far as performance and capability?

I have 2 CDJ pioneer turtables, and I am also wondering can I hook them up to the 1000, 2000, 2500?

I also want to know if it is possible for me to put my beats I make, say on the 1000, on cd's with all of these MPC's? Which ones can I do this and can't?

I know some will say since I am only starting go with the 1000, but the downside to this is that I will grow out of it and may regret not going with the better MPC. I would have lost 1000$ in getting the 1000 and then the 2500xl is 2000$, so I would then be spending 3000$, which is WAY more than I have.

ANY help would be way more than appreciated.

You can always find a used 2k or 2kxl for about 700-800 dollars.With the extra money you can get a nice production p.c.But if you think you would rather go the Fruity Loops way then knock yourself out.Although alot of people here will dog Fruity Loops some will praise it.I'll tell you first hand though,it was easier for me to learn the mpc to then it was to do anything but program drums on F.L.I respect people that can use F.L well because i couldn't ever do anything with it.


Peace.

If you don't want to be flat broke then i would go wit the 1000 or 2000xl.. but if you don't think that your gonna need extra gear then go with the 2500..

I don't own a 1000 but i don't think that you would out grow it if you decided to go with it. Alot of guys here are pretty happy with it. And i'm sure that most of them have had other MPC''s before..

I am leaning toward the 1000, mainly because of price. I have a few questions about it though.

1) Can I hook my CDJ's to it and sample music.?
2) Is it possible for me to burn the beats that I make on my MPC onto cds?
3) What "extra gear" may I need?

TennesseePimp865 wrote:I am leaning toward the 1000, mainly because of price. I have a few questions about it though.

1) Can I hook my CDJ's to it and sample music.?
2) Is it possible for me to burn the beats that I make on my MPC onto cds?
3) What "extra gear" may I need?

1.yes, very easy
2. yes, how to do this questions seem to be the current hot thing for february as almost every thread in the 1000 forum seems to be asking this.
3. whatever you feel you need. A PC/Software for editing samples easier and in greater detail. Software sequencer and VSTi's if you wanna dd more to your music that way. External hardware Synths to attach to the MPC. The list is endless but I shall say that it is possible to just rock the MPC on it's own and get your drum programming and sampling tight before you start thinking about any other stuff.

SUSHI

TennesseePimp865 wrote:I am leaning toward the 1000, mainly because of price. I have a few questions about it though.

1) Can I hook my CDJ's to it and sample music.?
2) Is it possible for me to burn the beats that I make on my MPC onto cds?
3) What "extra gear" may I need?

1. i take it the CDJs have an output?
2. yes, the MPC part stands for "Music Production Center"
3. headphones, cables, RAM, HD, etc...

SUSHI AUDIO wrote:

TennesseePimp865 wrote:I am leaning toward the 1000, mainly because of price. I have a few questions about it though.

1) Can I hook my CDJ's to it and sample music.?
2) Is it possible for me to burn the beats that I make on my MPC onto cds?
3) What "extra gear" may I need?

1.yes, very easy
2. yes, how to do this questions seem to be the current hot thing for february as almost every thread in the 1000 forum seems to be asking this.
3. whatever you feel you need. A PC/Software for editing samples easier and in greater detail. Software sequencer and VSTi's if you wanna dd more to your music that way. External hardware Synths to attach to the MPC. The list is endless but I shall say that it is possible to just rock the MPC on it's own and get your drum programming and sampling tight before you start thinking about any other stuff.

SUSHI

I am terrible with termanology. I understood almost nothing about pc/software for editing samples, Software sequencer and VSTi's, external hardware Synths to attach to the Mpc.

Yes, I figured I would just start with my MPC and turntables. This is gonna sound really dumb but what do you mean by "get your drum programming and sampling tight."

Im sorry man. please help me though

I don't believe you can burn music onto a CD _within_ the mpc 1000.

You just use one of various methods to transfer the audio to a computer, and burn the cd there.

I know that, but I was asking if I would have to buy new equipment or software?

TennesseePimp865 wrote:I know that, but I was asking if I would have to buy new equipment or software?

well, you can but don't have to. you can resample the output as a wav file, save to cf, transfer to computer and burn disc.

TennesseePimp865 wrote:I am terrible with termanology. I understood almost nothing about pc/software for editing samples, Software sequencer and VSTi's, external hardware Synths to attach to the Mpc.

Yes, I figured I would just start with my MPC and turntables. This is gonna sound really dumb but what do you mean by "get your drum programming and sampling tight."

Im sorry man. please help me though

No problemo.

What I mean is that if you're wanting to produce Hip Hop stuff as most on here are then most Hip Hop relies on sampling. You will notice this as you pick up more info and watch videos on how people go about producing. Listening to the majority of Hip Hop tracks there is looped samples taken from old school soul, indian instrumental albums, rock songs etc you know it, its been sampled!

Now the art of making a good beat comes from having the ear to pick out a good sample and then chop it, loop it, mess about with it, filter it etc to make it sound good. You then team this with a good beat. Now a beat isnt as simple as just BOOM BAP-----BOOM BOOM BAP. Little shifts in the timing of a beat, the speed at which the sound comes in (attack) the volume of the sound (Velocity) all play a part in making a nice beat. Not to mention selecting the right drums sounds and actually pounding out a nice rhythm.

As for VSTis, etc. Try not to worry about tjose for the time being. I'm not able to tell you a great deal on them myself apart from the basics, as the reason I got an MPC was so that I could just focus on that area. Try to learn the MPC and work within it's constraints, then look at other elements. I personally would recommend you get the 1k over 2500 as you'll save a heap of dough (which could go towards a cheap synth to learn on maybe or a soundcard for your computer to sync with the MPC) and the 2500 has only a few more features than the 1K. By your own admitted inexperience when it comes to producing the features the 2500 has, you aint never gonna miss cuz you arent aware of what they could do. These are features which by the time you have the ability to use them you will probably find easier to use on the PC as likelyhood is you will have the MPC and PC synchd.

eg. Grid edit.....now this is a feature which PC sequencers have. People buy MPC's because they force you to learn sequencing properly and down to the minute details while also using your ears and associating what you hear with what you are editing.

SUSHI

SUSHI AUDIO wrote:

TennesseePimp865 wrote:I am terrible with termanology. I understood almost nothing about pc/software for editing samples, Software sequencer and VSTi's, external hardware Synths to attach to the Mpc.

Yes, I figured I would just start with my MPC and turntables. This is gonna sound really dumb but what do you mean by "get your drum programming and sampling tight."

Im sorry man. please help me though

No problemo.

What I mean is that if you're wanting to produce Hip Hop stuff as most on here are then most Hip Hop relies on sampling. You will notice this as you pick up more info and watch videos on how people go about producing. Listening to the majority of Hip Hop tracks there is looped samples taken from old school soul, indian instrumental albums, rock songs etc you know it, its been sampled!

Now the art of making a good beat comes from having the ear to pick out a good sample and then chop it, loop it, mess about with it, filter it etc to make it sound good. You then team this with a good beat. Now a beat isnt as simple as just BOOM BAP-----BOOM BOOM BAP. Little shifts in the timing of a beat, the speed at which the sound comes in (attack) the volume of the sound (Velocity) all play a part in making a nice beat. Not to mention selecting the right drums sounds and actually pounding out a nice rhythm.

As for VSTis, etc. Try not to worry about tjose for the time being. I'm not able to tell you a great deal on them myself apart from the basics, as the reason I got an MPC was so that I could just focus on that area. Try to learn the MPC and work within it's constraints, then look at other elements. I personally would recommend you get the 1k over 2500 as you'll save a heap of dough (which could go towards a cheap synth to learn on maybe or a soundcard for your computer to sync with the MPC) and the 2500 has only a few more features than the 1K. By your own admitted inexperience when it comes to producing the features the 2500 has, you aint never gonna miss cuz you arent aware of what they could do. These are features which by the time you have the ability to use them you will probably find easier to use on the PC as likelyhood is you will have the MPC and PC synchd.

eg. Grid edit.....now this is a feature which PC sequencers have. People buy MPC's because they force you to learn sequencing properly and down to the minute details while also using your ears and associating what you hear with what you are editing.

SUSHI

That's a good post man. I appreciate that knowledge. I guess what I feel like I would really miss is the velocity senstive pads. Do you think I would have a big need for them? I remember when I was buying my turntables and mixer I was deciding between getting turntables and a mixer with no "effects" or the ones that had filters and all that stuff. I guess it is kinda like that. I have a couple of questions though that I think you have already answered but anyway here they go.

1) So I can hook up CDJ's to the the any of the MPCs, BUT what exactly would that let me do? I have a pretty good idea, but I don't want to sound stupid and be bashed.
2) I know I can somehow copy my music on to cds, but what will I probably have to buy?
3)With that being said, what other necessities will I probably need if I bought the 1000 or any other MPC?

BTW how much do you think it costs to have my PC and Mpc synchd.


I'm sorry about these questions, but it is a big decision especially when u arent rich.

1)Hooking yp your Cdj's will give the option to sample off of them.
2)Either use outboard gear(Cd burner)or get you a computer.
3)Cables,Patience,Time,A Manual and Some Monitors/Headphones.

stryke wrote:1)Hooking yp your Cdj's will give the option to sample off of them.
2)Either use outboard gear(Cd burner)or get you a computer.
3)Cables,Patience,Time,A Manual and Some Monitors/Headphones.

Ok that is what I figured for the most part. What do you mean by get a computer though. I have a laptop if that is what you mean .

Yep.As long as you can burn c.d.s from there you're good.

Peace.