Brand new or used?

Technics are the way to go with decks period. There are some good Vestax tables though. But not like the tech 12's. Don't waste 100 bucks on Numark garbage. Put that bill toward your real mixer... ie RANE. You juggle beats but don't know how to hook up a turntable? Not trying to diss or nothing, but...

turntablewillie wrote:Technics are the way to go with decks period. There are some good Vestax tables though. But not like the tech 12's. Don't waste 100 bucks on Numark garbage. Put that bill toward your real mixer... ie RANE. You juggle beats but don't know how to hook up a turntable? Not trying to diss or nothing, but...

yeah i deserve that one... that's what i get for being blazed and posting 'ish on forums.

i was more concerned about getting a flat line when i go to TRIM a sample after recording it into the MPC. i didn't realize the 2500 didn't have pre-amps. doesn't the 4k have them or was it the 5k that has pre-amps?

the Rane won't be hear for a few months... birthday present

i want to start sampling some 'ish and the receiver i have won't do as a work around.

WHYuHATEtheGAME wrote:i didn't realize the 2500 didn't have pre-amps. doesn't the 4k have them or was it the 5k that has pre-amps?

It's not that the 2500 don't have pre amps, It's just that it does not have the RIAA pre-amps selecta jo was talkin bout.
The 4000 & 5000 does have a direct turntable RIAA input.

okay we're good on the mixer thing and ready to move on.

but before i go and ask another question, i want to thank everyone who's been replying. Be it positive or negative the information helps. i feel like i'm coming out of retirement to get back into the music production and at 30 there are alot of cobwebs. so again... thank you!

i respect the fellas who've been in the game way longer than me and only seek to gain knowledge from you guys.

okay, now my question is... after recording a sample into the mpc (via turntable, dj mixer) and looking at it in trim mode, is it normal to be looking at a flat line? i looked at the same sample in sound forge, cause i'm curious, and found the same thing. there minor raises along the flat line but not high enough to even consider.

umm... help?

turn up the rec gain on the mpc when you sample. you want the level as high as possible without clipping. Use the meter in the record page (bounces from left to right with sound level) You want this as high as poss without going over the top.

turntablewillie wrote:turn up the rec gain on the mpc when you sample. you want the level as high as possible without clipping. Use the meter in the record page (bounces from left to right with sound level) You want this as high as poss without going over the top.

i've done so... and found some improvement but not enough to where i can see peaks and valleys. the recorded sample can be trimmed in chop shop and played back fine. but is it really there without any waves???


currently in record mode> input: ANALOG; mode: stereo; moniter: on; threshold: between -48 and -51

record gain has been set at various high levels each attempt and very little difference.

WHYuHATEtheGAME wrote:i've done so... and found some improvement but not enough to where i can see peaks and valleys. the recorded sample can be trimmed in chop shop and played back fine. but is it really there without any waves???

Your not going to see the peaks and valleys until after the samples been recorded and you go into trim mode...

kneebone77 wrote:

WHYuHATEtheGAME wrote:i've done so... and found some improvement but not enough to where i can see peaks and valleys. the recorded sample can be trimmed in chop shop and played back fine. but is it really there without any waves???

Your not going to see the peaks and valleys until after the samples been recorded and you go into trim mode...

and that's what i've done... after recording the audio sample and looking at the sample in chop shop (trim mode) that's where i encounter the flat line.

i'm not sure what the problem is. is it cause the dj mixer is a USB mixer?

argh!

If your sample is not very dynamic (like drums) this is not so uncommon in my experience. In the trim page there is a button to switch to logarithmic wave veiw. I think it is in the zoom page though. Not sure exactly where but it is there.

WHYuHATEtheGAME wrote:currently in record mode> input: ANALOG; mode: stereo; moniter: on; threshold: between -48 and -51

Are you sure you are actually recording a stereo signal, and it isn't only on one of the channels?

_Stilo_ wrote:

WHYuHATEtheGAME wrote:currently in record mode> input: ANALOG; mode: stereo; moniter: on; threshold: between -48 and -51

Are you sure you are actually recording a stereo signal, and it isn't only on one of the channels?

Good point, that was my next guess. Like if you record in stereo but only to the left side while viewing the right side in the trim window...

we're good.


thanks y'all.


peace