swing feature question

so here's the deal:
i REALLY don't understand how the swing feature works on the mpc 2500. what exactly does this feature do? which notes does it affect and what does it do to them (moves them forward or back or what)? what do the extra settings "shift timing" and "amount" do and do they affect the swing or "swing%"? if someone could very thoroughly explain this to me, i'd greatly appreciate it.

thanks people

from page 15 of the 1000 manual.
"Swing feature
You can set the swing value in the Swing% field. With the swing feature, the even numbered events set in the Note value field will be off the rhythm according to the value in the Swing% field. With this feature you can create the shuffle groove."

so swing moves the notes 2 and 4 back, leaving notes 1 and 3 where they are.
"shift" moves the specified notes (not just the even numbered events) either forward or backwards.

for instance, if you're adding a go go bell or cowbell pattern, you might want to put more swing on it than you used for the kick. now you might have noticed that bells often get played ahead of the beat - they come in just before the kick. so set shift to earlier and try different amounts till it sounds good.

beach_break wrote: so set shift to earlier and try different amounts till it sounds good.

Beach_break covered the basics nicely right there. Play and experiment till u fully understand it how it works in practice and how to use to get different type of grooves.

do i have to make the swing setting before i record or can i set it after the fact? the reason i ask is because when i try to set it after the fact i don't notice the effect. is this just because it is very subtle or should i be noticing it?

Depends on the swing% setting, but you should usually hear a difference (unless the change in the swing setting is really "small", then it's hard to hear perhaps).

If there's no difference to the MPC500 in this regard, then the answer is "no", you cannot apply the setting after recording a track. You must set the swing before recording.

A good way to see/hear how the swing setting will affect the notes is the following:

Take a kick, snare, or hi-hat and use your note repeat button. While holding down the note repeat button and the pad with the drumsound on it (the kick, snare, hi-hat will play on note repeat according to your timing correction setting), start changing the swing% value. You should be able to hear how the rhythm changes while doing this.

PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLzYw9hcQFQ

jibber you ROCK!!!
thank you so much! and thanks everyone else, too!

yo also you can switch to different settings and itll change. the swing works track to track so instead of effecting the whole song you can select different swing %s for each track. you can record a track and keep changing the swing without re-recording and youll hear the difference. peace.

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