Common drum map for programs

Hi everyone,

My question is, is there a common, usual drum setting, mapping for the pads in a program?
Why I ask is, that I'm kind a new with MPC, but I really enjoy making music with my 1K, but sometimes I do some mistakes, like if I open some old ideas, I've got all the MIDI sign for the drum program, but no sample (it's my bed), but because I didn't really put on a usual order I dont know which one was the bass, snare, etc.. (of course you know some by looking the MIDI) and it's a pain in the xxx to exchange them to a new samples.
I hope you guys understand that.
I know what ever is confortable for you, but maybe there is a standard like: 1st: bass, 2nd: snare, 3d:hi hat, etc...
so that way it's even easy to simply exchange with other users or in other songs.

thanx

Gregbase wrote:My question is, is there a common, usual drum setting, mapping for the pads in a program...maybe there is a standard...
so that way it's easy to simply exchange with other users or in other songs.

Yes and No.

There is no 'standard' way of mapping pads to drums or programs, the best you can do is develop your own method.

Once you have developed your own method STICK TO IT particularly for mapping your drums, this will allow you to quickly audition/ change/ replace complete kits.

You could always stick with the MPC default drum mapping scheme.

The MPC60 and MPC3000 pads even have drum names printed above them for reference..take a closer look.

clint246clint wrote:

Gregbase wrote:My question is, is there a common, usual drum setting, mapping for the pads in a program...maybe there is a standard...
so that way it's easy to simply exchange with other users or in other songs.

Yes and No.

There is no 'standard' way of mapping pads to drums or programs, the best you can do is develop your own method.

Once you have developed your own method STICK TO IT particularly for mapping your drums, this will allow you to quickly audition/ change/ replace complete kits.

You could always stick with the MPC default drum mapping scheme.

The MPC60 and MPC3000 pads even have drum names printed above them for reference..take a closer look.

Thanx very much! I'll do that!
That's the answer I was looking for.

I appreciate it!
G.

clint246clint wrote:

Gregbase wrote:My question is, is there a common, usual drum setting, mapping for the pads in a program...maybe there is a standard...
so that way it's easy to simply exchange with other users or in other songs.

Yes and No.

There is no 'standard' way of mapping pads to drums or programs, the best you can do is develop your own method.

Once you have developed your own method STICK TO IT particularly for mapping your drums, this will allow you to quickly audition/ change/ replace complete kits.

You could always stick with the MPC default drum mapping scheme.

The MPC60 and MPC3000 pads even have drum names printed above them for reference..take a closer look.

I checked it out, both has different map, so I guess is there is no such as "standard".
So I'll try to stick to one mapping order for keep it simple and organised.
I use it similiar than the MPC 3000, strat from the kick, snare, etc...
How about you? How do you map the standard drumsamples (not the unique ones)?

Gregbase wrote:How about you? How do you map the standard drumsamples (not the unique ones)?

I use my own scheme, designed by me for me.

I suggest you do the same.

Try to keep your drum kits limited to 16 samples/ pads, then you can have a different kit in each bank of a program.

I use:

Pads 1-4 Bass drums
Pads 5-8 Snare drums
Pads 9-10 closed+open hat
Pads 11-12 another closed+open hat/pedal/ride
Pads 13-15 various percussion...toms, rides, cowbell
Pad 16 Crash

Of course I have to adapt it a little bit differently for almost every program, but it's enough to get me in a usable spot.

clint246clint wrote:

Gregbase wrote:How about you? How do you map the standard drumsamples (not the unique ones)?

I use my own scheme, designed by me for me.

I suggest you do the same.

Try to keep your drum kits limited to 16 samples/ pads, then you can have a different kit in each bank of a program.

Because I use with my whole band, I don't really have too much drum samples, because I have a drummer, just couple of samples if I want more like electric sound, but I still build at least 4 track for drums, who knows when I'm gonna put more drum to the song.
What I do (I figure it bymiself ) that when I start put ideas thogether and playing on synth (MIDI to MPC) I start on the banks "B" , so all my MIDI notes on "B" and I sample those to the bank "A" in the same order, so that way I can keep the notes in case if I want to change something, but I have all the audio too so I don't have to carry all my synts.

nogginj wrote:I use:

Pads 1-4 Bass drums
Pads 5-8 Snare drums
Pads 9-10 closed+open hat
Pads 11-12 another closed+open hat/pedal/ride
Pads 13-15 various percussion...toms, rides, cowbell
Pad 16 Crash

Of course I have to adapt it a little bit differently for almost every program, but it's enough to get me in a usable spot.

Aham, I understand. So basically you built a program for a lot of songs, that's why you put like 4 snare, etc. or that much are you use for even 1 song?
In other hand, should I built drum programs when I start a project or create a couple different setup and open those for a new song and see if the sound fits in?
I just really curious how the more advanced users do it.

Every track is different, it's just a quick way to stay organised.

Since you asked "should I" I will say you should quit thinking about what to do and just start doing something ;]. Your own style will come to you.

Gregbase wrote:

clint246clint wrote:

Gregbase wrote:My question is, is there a common, usual drum setting, mapping for the pads in a program...maybe there is a standard...
so that way it's easy to simply exchange with other users or in other songs.

Yes and No.

There is no 'standard' way of mapping pads to drums or programs, the best you can do is develop your own method.

Once you have developed your own method STICK TO IT particularly for mapping your drums, this will allow you to quickly audition/ change/ replace complete kits.

You could always stick with the MPC default drum mapping which is aligned with the General Midi (GM) standard.

The MPC60 and MPC3000 pads even have drum names printed above them for reference..take a closer look.

Thanx very much! I'll do that!
That's the answer I was looking for.

I appreciate it!
G.

Yea that's great help!

nogginj wrote:Every track is different, it's just a quick way to stay organised.

Since you asked "should I" I will say you should quit thinking about what to do and just start doing something ;]. Your own style will come to you.

Ohh, I already did, it's just a little chaotic those drum programs I already did, but I'm getting better and better as I more informed in things like that issue.

thnx

hey, watch this video, or just pause the screen at the begenning, and this guy shows you how he maps his drums to his mpc.

im sure if you picked out a drumkit or 2 (or 4 for all the banks for that matter) that you used all the time, you could make a program that you could open up or autoload that would save all of those samples to these places on the pads for you, so you wouldent have to load each sample individually every time.

im almost positive the mpc save programs with samples like that, but i never used the same drums really so i always did it the long way.

hope this helps.


http://vimeo.com/9102030

someone else on the board loaded this picture up before in a higher quality, but i coudlent find it, maybe if they read this they'll upload it for you.

damien907 wrote:hey, watch this video, or just pause the screen at the begenning, and this guy shows you how he maps his drums to his mpc.

im sure if you picked out a drumkit or 2 (or 4 for all the banks for that matter) that you used all the time, you could make a program that you could open up or autoload that would save all of those samples to these places on the pads for you, so you wouldent have to load each sample individually every time.

im almost positive the mpc save programs with samples like that, but i never used the same drums really so i always did it the long way.

hope this helps.


http://vimeo.com/9102030

someone else on the board loaded this picture up before in a higher quality, but i coudlent find it, maybe if they read this they'll upload it for you.

thanx!!!!I WILL WATCHI IT RIGHT NOW!!!!

i usually do like this
pads 1, 5, 9, 13: bass drums
pads 2, 6, 10, 14: snares
pads 3, 7, 11, 15: hi-hats (closed/open) and/or bass/synths
pads 4, 8, 12, 16: crashes, rides, and/or bass/synths
i don't know why