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By ALboogie875 Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:31 pm
I've got all the right hookups from the mpc to computer. now how would i go about recording seperate tracks (ex:track1-bass, track2-snare, track3-piano keys....etc. I wanna make seperate tracks instead of jus recording the whole song on 1 track, which is what ive been doing lol
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By Capshun Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:57 pm
what software do you have and what soundcard
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By binger0 Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:08 pm
u should just use track solo and midi sync it as the slave to the pc program. so when u hit play on the pc it will start playing the mpc. then record that for the whole time of ur track then do it again for the next track. so u gonna have like 6 3 min tracks in the pc. so it would take like 20 or 30 mins to track one song.
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By Capshun Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:39 pm
^^ yup, it should be no biggie tho, just watch some tv or something while your trackin
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By classic Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:46 pm
binger0 wrote:uso u gonna have like 6 3 min tracks in the pc. so it would take like 20 or 30 mins to track one song.


sorry binger0, but thats totallythe wrong way to go about it.

Once your MPC is synced to your multitrack software( i use cubase)
All u do is solo each track on your MPC and record the 8 bar loop(or whoever long your loop is) into your software progream

So if my sequnce it 8 bars
n cubase I will have the following audio files(or whatever software u will use)


8 bar loop of kick
8 bar loop of snar
8 bar loop of pinao etc...


Since the MPC is synced to your software the loops will line up perfeclty.

Once u have them, u just higlight thebars of all of them and cut and past to the length you want the song. THis is how the pros do it.

ITs totally unesscarry to sit there and record the full length of each track

class....

By ALboogie875 Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:06 am
cool, i know what i have to do now. thanx for the help guys
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By Capshun Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:52 am
thanks classic, i never thought to do it that way, i just got cubase se so ill do that , thanks again
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By equi-knocks Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:12 pm
Another plus to doing it this way (16 Bar) is that you save a lot of computer memory. Things CAN get out of time tho.
By L. Tombstone Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:32 pm
Why don't you just remake the beat in your computer software??? I always see this advanced level approach using MIDI sync and all that, but I never understood the benefit. I myself use MPC's with a Protools LE setup. I don't sync anything to anything. Since the base BPM (tempo) is the same in my Protools session as it is in my MPC, there is nothing to sync. I mean, am I supposed to chop a sample into some simple 4-bar loop and then sit there and record it in my computer for 3-5 minutes??? Sounds like a lame waste of time to me. I'd rather just put the 4-bar loop into Protools and copy and paste it across the grid to the end of my track. Same thing with drums. Why sync and track patterns when I could just take one kick, one snare, etc. and remake the pattern in my software?? The choice is yours, but I use MPC's for the sound quality and some rough ideas, if the computer software is your ultimate platform, make beats on that instead of the MPC.......Oh and if the highly overated 'swing' is the issue, the 'swing' options in software DAW's are much more flexible. You could humanize your drums through the entire song if you wanted. It also important to note that unless you are using SMPTE to sync, there will ALWAYS be some sort of air-bubble or delay and the beginning of the loop. If you edit the audio directly, you eliminate the latency caused by syncing especially MIDI.....
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By classic Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:33 pm
ITs a matter of prefernce, u do u, ill do me

i prefer sequcing and creating on the MPC. Instead of cutting and pasting in protools. I like the live feel if live drum programming as well as playing. The creative process is alot easier for me on the MPC, instread of just stitting infront of a screen cutting and pasting loops.




Its just personal prefrence, Im a musican, and i find it alot more intuative to create on the MPC. I only like to use software for mixing and mastering

But it can be done both ways... the end result is all that matters


class....
By L. Tombstone Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:02 pm
...you obviously missed my point. The method which I described is useful for either transferring existing material froms MPC's to software, OR creating it from scratch as such. There is no better or worse, u do u I'll do me, or any of that. Merely different approaches. Let's be real anyway, it's not like the bulk of today's MPC users are gonna hit a studio with double 2-inch tape 48 track capabilities and mix it through an actual SSL console with robust vintage outboard gear, classic mics and have it mastered professionally. So why not sharpen up your computer and DAW skills?? What next..MPC filters are better than meticulous EQing with outboard and/or DAW plug-ins??? I don't think so.
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By classic Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:21 pm
Naw u missed my point man

Im saying i have DONE what ur talking about before, and i just dident like the feel or work flow. Thats it !!!

If u ask 5 people how u sequnce and u will get 5 differnt answers. I have producer friends that sequnce with cubase (MPC slave) i have friends that sequnce wit the MPC and use reason as a software rack. There are soo many endless combontiations of how to sequnce with MIDI and an MPC thats its pretty cocky for u to sit there and say

"my way is best" which is how ur coming off.

Your way is best for u, and again the end product is all that matters

class......
By L. Tombstone Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:17 pm
Cats just want to argue. Who cares? I was trying to help this cat out by explaining my concept of tracking without sync. Take it or leave it. I don't give a f***, we should all be playing real instruments really so bickering over electronic music techniques is like telling me how to drink water properly. :lol:
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By classic Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:21 pm
L. Tombstone wrote:Cats just want to argue. Who cares? I was trying to help this cat out by explaining my concept of tracking without sync. Take it or leave it. I don't give a f***, we should all be playing real instruments really so bickering over electronic music techniques is like telling me how to drink water properly. :lol:


we are arguing the same point, thats what i just said in my eailer post
"the end result matters"

And FYI i do play real instraments, im a classical pianist, hence the name

class...
By L. Tombstone Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:47 pm
Good sh** man, that's what I like to hear!!! I started out DJing so that's more my thing. I was tellin my boy cats argue about breaks and machines all day, but I ain't heard one dude come through and school like: "Yeah, I got this reggae band come through and put it down once a month"....or sum'n like that. It's always the same old 'my way' vs. 'your way' type detail. I only respond somewhat negatively when cats pick my statements apart, don't know how to read, or generally are just trying to be a genuine pain in the ass for the sake of some lame-f*** E-beef. Nuff respect main, wish I had skills on them keys!!! FYI I just put information out there for people to absorb or not. Unless I'm specifically inquiring, I don't expect people to respond positive or negative to most of my statements...