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By Donavin Tibbs Mon May 16, 2005 8:20 pm
I figured this was kinda a newbie question. Ive never sampled before and Im planning on buying a turntable to sample.

What turntable should i get to do sampling and some light scratching ( i dont rly kno how to dj either) ?

I know i need to get a dj mixer or a preamp too which one should i get?
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By Krux Tue May 17, 2005 12:04 am
Get a mixer. As for turntables, there's lots . You can use anything for sampling, but if you want to scratch, it'll def need to be direct drive . Any direct drive table will do, but if you have the money and want something that'll last a long time, get a Technics SL1200 . If you want more features look at something like the Numark TTX-1s . Or for a bit more you can get a Vestax PDX2000 MK2 which has the extra features and is (imo) best for cutting ... but will probably be overkill if you only want to do light scratching . Still, if you have the money and want the features that the Technics don't have, it's not a bad way to go even if you're not a scratch dj .
If you don't want to spend that much, any of the cheaper turntables from Stanton (T60, 80), Nurmark (TT200 , 1650) or Gemini will do the job .
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By pt3r Tue May 17, 2005 7:11 am
I use the stanton str-80 mainly for sampling, I really like the fact that it has the built-in 'time stretch' whereby you can change the speed of the record without altering the pitch.

By Donavin Tibbs Tue May 17, 2005 8:23 am
Thanks for the help guys. i talked to the guys at the guitar center but most of them just try to get u to spend alot of money on shit u dont need.

the time strech sounds like a good idea cause i got the 1k and it dont have that feature...

Is that the only turntable with a timestrech? do any of the numarks have it?

I was thinking about a technics but the price on that is killin me. ill most likely go with another brand.

as far as the dj mixers go which one should i get? i need something that will get the job done but do it right.

what about computer programs... i know alot of people use them to chop samples i dont have anything that can do that. is that need?
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By pt3r Tue May 17, 2005 9:02 am
Audacity can chop samples and is freeware AFAIK. I use an ecler smac pro 20 dj mixer, nothing spectacular but it sounds nice and wasn't too expensive. There's no need investing in a rane or vestax mixer if you're not going to dj and or scratch intensively.
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By GRMM D Thu May 19, 2005 12:50 am
pt3r wrote:I use the stanton str-80 mainly for sampling, I really like the fact that it has the built-in 'time stretch' whereby you can change the speed of the record without altering the pitch.


:shock: you can't be serious. i turntable with timestretch? i never thought such a thing existed. please give more info on this if you would.
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By Krux Thu May 19, 2005 1:25 am
GRMM D wrote:
pt3r wrote:I use the stanton str-80 mainly for sampling, I really like the fact that it has the built-in 'time stretch' whereby you can change the speed of the record without altering the pitch.


:shock: you can't be serious. i turntable with timestretch? i never thought such a thing existed. please give more info on this if you would.

I think he was just talking about the pitch control.
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By pt3r Thu May 19, 2005 7:01 am
NO once again when I adjust the pitch I can turn on note correction that makes the music go slower or faster without the pitch of the music changeing and that IMO is a form of timestretching.
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By JUKE 179r Sat May 21, 2005 2:05 pm
Damn! Timestretch on a turntable??? Technology is a mutha man!!
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By Phabeon Sat May 21, 2005 8:51 pm
pt3r wrote:I use the stanton str-80 mainly for sampling, I really like the fact that it has the built-in 'time stretch' whereby you can change the speed of the record without altering the pitch.
by time stretch do yo mean uhm those "speed" up oldies samples? like cold as ice by m.o.p. ? or ms fat booty by mos def? is that time stretchin i tried research but its above my head right now... that turntable sounds good but $200 new... nothing on ebay....

let me ask yall this.. yall ever see that hieroglyphic video floatin round the net, where dude makes a "beat" from a semame street record? its like a tuturial... that turntable he had..he manually turned the record backward and it "rewound" is that a special turtable? can the stanton do that? i was told not to try that wit my og turntable as it would wreck it..

besides the stanton any other good tables for simply jus samplein' purposes? aka cheaper but good?

holla back knowledge

oNe
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By ikke Sat May 21, 2005 11:35 pm
technics sl all the way :D
find a cheap used one, they wont brake!
you can change the pitch range so it has + and - 16 instead of 8. You have to do some screwing inside. No hands-on. but well worth the money. Some dealers might tell you: "The SL´s are outdated and they are too heavy machines and blah blah.." Just to let you buy another turntable wich will brake and then you have to go shop for anothe rone :P And the heavier the turntable in weight, the better it is for skratching wax! Try it! Skratch on a plastic-bells-and-whistles-turntable and compare it to the robust Technics.
The only downside on an SL is that you cant disconnect the rca output cable..
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By Phabeon Mon May 23, 2005 8:55 pm
GRMM D wrote:if your sampling any dj turntable will do. doesnt have to be a technic un less you want the absolute best turntable. you can find a decent stanton or numark for about $99-$200.
model numbers to get me started on? thanks...

oNe
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By stryke Mon May 23, 2005 9:03 pm
Vestax handytrax or Numark pt-01.Portable joints but will still get the job done.
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By Phabeon Tue May 24, 2005 6:19 pm
stryke wrote:Vestax handytrax or Numark pt-01.Portable joints but will still get the job done.
thanks for info guys.. the portable one's seem dope!

also per your suggestions am re searchin these two...

what are the main differences between the two?
stanton str-80
http://www.zzounds.com/item--STASTR880

Stanton T60 DJ Turntable with 500B Cartrige (Direct Drive)
http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-STA-T60.html

the 80 seems high tech??

what yall think?

also can i "rewind" wit these two tables as seen in this video?
http://hieroglyphics.com/features/b...se1_lesson5.mov <-- towards the end.. dope record huh?
i mean i think that would prove very useful to my sample beat making needs?..


what do you think...



oNe