Is it right that

my mpc(xl) doesn't save the param settings (adjusted in trim mode) for each .wav when I save the aps and choose 'replace same sounds'? The mpc only saves these settings for .snd files, right?... not wavs'.

You can answer this yourself big man. Try it with both, APS and PGM, w/WAV and SND. You'll get your answer.

You aren't able to SAVE the 'TRIM-mode' SETTINGS for WAV files. Only with .SND files can you adjust the TUNE / LEVEL in the trim/param screen and save that data with the FILE. It doesn't make any difference whether you do this via saving a .PGM or .APS, it's the same. Remember if you load up a PROGRAM and you **** with any of the sounds' settings in trim mode - if you want to save the settings, you have to choose 'replace same sounds' when saving the .pgm/.aps to overwrite the old sounds with the 'new' ones that have the adjusted settings.

Your right only snd will let you do that.

snd's seem to have a bigger purpose than just everyone
wanting more pc compatibility in wav files.

Word. I spent some time last night converting my 'new' programs that I've saved to my cf card to all .snd files. I don't use a pc. It's Akai's proprietary format so it makes sense.

Yeah it's a trade off for people with a PC cause they liek to make quick edits with WAVs. But some of them don't have proper converting software
so they end up favoring the WAV but the SND shouldn't be overlooked either, as you've found out. There are advantages and disadvantages.

Glad you figured it out though. At least this way you'll remember it better than someone just telling you.

So if I edit a .WAV in the trim mode and then save the sound, it doesn't save the edits?!?!? WTF!?!?!

M, try it and see what's really real.

I just tried to adjust the level and tune inth the TRIM's PARAMS screen on a .WAV and saved it with .APS choosing replace same sounds, and it did save the settings. So what are you guys referring to that .WAVs won't do and .SNDs will? I am SO confused

I just did it also, aps and all. I guess both ways work with wav.

WTF!

Now you got me confused MicPro. I'm gonna have to report back on this when I get home. It didn't work for me, but maybe I did something differently.

Lamp, what "both ways" are you talking about? Are you meaning saving it with the .APS or saving it with a .PGM as the two different ways?

Lampdog wrote:Your right only snd will let you do that.

what made you think that?

I was always under the impression that the main difference betwen .WAV and .SND was .WAV is a PC formatted audio file and .SND is a MAC formatted audio. The MPC was most likely set to .SND as default do to the fact that back in the day, most computer driven audio studios used Macs instead of PCs. (the also seem to save and load faster on my Zip drive than .WAVs)

"I was always under the impression that..."

That is just bunch of urban legend. There is nothing about SND files that resemble anything Mac-like. In fact, there is nothing about the MPC's in themselves that have anything related to Mac. In fact, the MPC architecture is PC based.

When the first MPC's were developed, no one knew what a WAV file was. No one really knew what DOS or Windows was. When you wanted to store something on disk, you just designed your own system to do so and created your own file formats (SND). This is why modern computers have such a hard time mounting/reading old MPC formatted drives.

M.ic P.ro C.rusher wrote:I was always under the impression that the main difference betwen .WAV and .SND was .WAV is a PC formatted audio file and .SND is a MAC formatted audio. The MPC was most likely set to .SND as default do to the fact that back in the day, most computer driven audio studios used Macs instead of PCs. (the also seem to save and load faster on my Zip drive than .WAVs)

SND is Akai's proprietary format (as mentioned above), I don't think it has/had anything to do with macs.

Most computer driven studios still use Macs... Maybe not for long though