180g lps?

got a beck 2 turn tables and a microphone on 12" and it does that ,
look at the record and no scratches very clean, then you play it and it starts to skip every couple sec's never seen another one ,after looking with a micro loop you can see a tiny scratch from the press.

You're not going to notice any sound quality difference between 180G VV (of a legit repress) and an OG unless your equipment you're using for playback is audiophile. But if you are you will.


and about the snake oil comment, i'd say it's more like 1% science, 99% snake oil


It's all subjective anyways buy a 180 and decide for yourself, while there are some objective aspects of sound (loudness of a pressing, frequency range captured etc.) how those translate to a "better" sound becomes purely objective.

fobedafied wrote:it really sucks when its on some schit you bought multiple copies of...

i haven't bought (hip hop) vinyl in years, but i got use to buy doubles of everything i could afford..

i bought doubles of busta ft erikah badu - just one/rhymes gallore.. and on one of the 'just one' sides there was a weird distortion/static after the first hook. almost like who ever was pressing it was leaning on something for 5-10 seconds.

but fat wax all day. i hate it when you get warped vinyl..
one of my torq vinyls was warped, so i took it back with a WTF!

Word... I remeber the name of that company now.

4 Men With Beards.

STAY THE FUDGE AWAY FROM THEIR SHIZ.... 90% crap. It's like they stole the long-used tape from somebodys 1984 K-Car as the master for all their recordings.

I have thin-as-anorexic vinyl that sounds 100x better.

I think that's Rhino's subsidiary. For some reason I don't get as many warped records as I used to in the 90s nowadays . . .

I said it before, and will say it again. Nobody has Steve Austin type hearing where they can really tell the difference between record pressings. The only way you can tell a good pressing over a bad pressing is if the music is pressed extremely low, or high over the other. All these "crystal clear clarity, warmth, bottom" type of adjectives is engineer talk. People with trained ears referring to master tape recordings, not record pressings that decrease each and everytime the needle touches the groove.

Now is the 180g pressing better? I have found that many are louder, yes.

DBA wrote:The only way you can tell a good pressing over a bad pressing is if the music is pressed extremely low, or high over the other.

That really depends on the source and the sonics of the record in question. If I'm listening to a recording of a piano soloist in my living room, and the amplifier is around 50% because I like the sound to fill my house -- then I most certainly will hear small warps and oddities in the geometry of the disc during silent segments; those things are even more apparent to me in headphones.

Different cutting techniques, lathe types, and materials will certainly change the sound of the record. That's not taking into account all of the changes in the mix that might have occurred since the original release, tape rot, restoration techniques and a myriad of other things.

not record pressings that decrease each and everytime the needle touches the groove.

Well, thicker vinyl is going to resist wear so it's entirely possible for a 180g pressing to sound better than a similarly aged and played normally weighted record.

The issue is not whether they might sound different; they likely will. The issue is what oddities in a recording annoy you, and do they annoy you enough to pay a few extra dollars to eliminate them.

Now is the 180g pressing better? I have found that many are louder, yes.

180g isn't going to make anything louder or softer, the width of the grooves will.

As if there aren't different quality pressings.
You guys are making me feel like I got super human hearing or some shit

When you get one with big fat grooves, pphhwooaarrr!!

bedouin wrote:

DBA wrote:The only way you can tell a good pressing over a bad pressing is if the music is pressed extremely low, or high over the other.

That really depends on the source and the sonics of the record in question. If I'm listening to a recording of a piano soloist in my living room, and the amplifier is around 50% because I like the sound to fill my house -- then I most certainly will hear small warps and oddities in the geometry of the disc during silent segments; those things are even more apparent to me in headphones.

Different cutting techniques, lathe types, and materials will certainly change the sound of the record. That's not taking into account all of the changes in the mix that might have occurred since the original release, tape rot, restoration techniques and a myriad of other things.

not record pressings that decrease each and everytime the needle touches the groove.

Well, thicker vinyl is going to resist wear so it's entirely possible for a 180g pressing to sound better than a similarly aged and played normally weighted record.

The issue is not whether they might sound different; they likely will. The issue is what oddities in a recording annoy you, and do they annoy you enough to pay a few extra dollars to eliminate them.

Now is the 180g pressing better? I have found that many are louder, yes.

180g isn't going to make anything louder or softer, the width of the grooves will.

+1

people dont see whats going on with there hearing this digital media is distroying it,
people listen to records and they say whats that noise why is it so wide sounding, digital media limits all these things. IF you listen closely enuff you can hear the things you thought you heard with your digtal headphones on a piece of vinyl, just as technology inproved DIGITAL it has improved with vinyl as well.

if you cant tell the difference in a repress or an original pressing you need to listen HARDER and longer

Or maybe on some nicer speakers