Talk and share knowledge on rare records, sources of new samples, vinyl, diggin, etc
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By MegaTON Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:26 am
do yall producers sample off break records...im new to this shit but that sounds mad corny to be doin i can see if its like CARTOON BREAKS or VIDEO GAME THEMES breaks or whatever those are called cuz everyone can get those songs anyway but findin a dusty fingers record and makin a beat is real wack to me
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By dj e.d.e Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:40 am
i'm tryin to refrain from answering this ,can someone else answer this i need to take some BP meds i just got struck i an artery.
please help this child.
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By itchyvinyl Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:17 am
Man, this question could spark off some huge debate......I've seen it happen in here.
All I'm gonna say is, I try not to (although I have used samples from "unholy" places before.)
But, we have to admit that some of our favorite classics from the past were made off the Ultimate Breaks series.
I mean do you really think that every person who has used the Impeach The President snare actually owns an OG copy?

By jpeg Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:58 am
Yeah sample off break records, it dont matter as long as u can do something creative with the sounds ur using and it sparks u to create go for it.

probably would not want to make every track off samples from break records, but u can use anything just do what u want why u asking other people 1st? lol
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By c.toon Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:47 am
dj e.d.e wrote:please help this child.

word.
These posts are starting to give me pain in the eyes. :? :roll:
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By mpc4000xl Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:13 pm
c.toon wrote:
dj e.d.e wrote:please help this child.

word.
These posts are starting to give me pain in the eyes. :? :roll:



GOOD LORD.....................


I'M With Toon and EDE on this ONE..............................

and BOTH OF THESE CATS HAVE ALOT OF OG COPIES AS DO I...............

Trust I Started DJin' Over A Decade AGO..........


Here IS The DEAL.....................................


SAMPLE OFF OF WHAT U WANT.............................................

IF U Want TO BE A PURIST FINE!!!!! .......I or Nobody else can knock that...


But Remeber there would be no WU - 36 CHAMBERS Without Samplin' off TV or VHS..........................

No Prodigy - Keep it Through Without "Dusty Fingers"

No Marley Marl - Symphony Without "Ultimate Breaks and Beats"



Also I Look At this Another Way...........................


Guys Like "Dusty Kid" and "Louis Flores"............................


Went Around alot OF Respected DJ and DIGGERS and Picked their Brainz...

NOW I'm No Jock Ridder But if I Could Convo With "Africa BAM"--"Buckwild"--"Diamond D" -- "Grandmaster Flash" and Many others I Think I Would and That Was Often Done.......................................

Another thing I Want to Add IS This ....There Are Some Odd Foreign Jointz on Dusty Fingers That If I Could Find I STILL WOULDN'T BUY................

THE PRICES ARE JUS SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So In Closing I SAY AGAIN..............SAMPLE OFF OF......................


TAPE
CD
VHS
DVD
DRUM MACHINES
KEYBOARDS
MUSICAL BOOKS
CHILDRENS TOYS
THE TRAIN STATION
VSTi
DXi
VINYL..........(Comps / Reissues / ETC.)

or WHATEVER

IF U LIKE

OR JUST BE A PURIST and Decide Not To Its On You But Check Back And LEARN.....................


READ The Comps and Learn What Artist Are On them and Branch out From There Use them Educationally....................(This Is Basically What "Evil Dee" Said )


JUST MAKE GREAT And Interesting Music...........................



P.S. I Never Loop off Compz..........except for Drums and Even then Ill Prolly
Chop or Layer The KIT....................

Image

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For More On BREAKS CLICK HERE...........
http://www.bombhiphop.com/breaks.htm

TRUST THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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By featherboy Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:33 pm
I Could Convo With "Africa BAM"--"Buckwild"--"Diamond D" -- "Grandmaster Flash" and Many others I Think I Would and That Was Often Done.......................................


Grandmaster Flash uses re-issues these days for a lot of the breaks he discovered in the first place. His originals are completely worn out.

I saw Jazzy Jay buying bootleg compilations in the famous store Downstairs Records in NYC back in '94.
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By featherboy Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:40 pm
No Marley Marl - Symphony Without "Ultimate Breaks and Beats"


Add Mantronix - "King Of The Beats" to that list.
I remember in the mid '80s when the first Ultimate B & Bs were coming out. With every volume there would be a load of new records using those beats just a month or so later.
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By dj e.d.e Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:44 pm
thank you 4oooxl. i just was a bit fired up last nite and i didnt feel like hurtin feelings ,cause if you know me , thats my thing the classic breaks i love and dig for that al the time.
i got a list of classics i'm lookin for still.

megaton if you got breaks you dont want sell them man , i only want the classic breaks original if possible .

my man itchy will tell you , i've bought around 100 150 bucks of breaks off him , his stuff is super clean ,so you have to compare to that. imaculent piece's of vinyl he had, if there in great condition i will pay for it.
peace
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By mpc4000xl Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:30 pm
featherboy wrote:
I Could Convo With "Africa BAM"--"Buckwild"--"Diamond D" -- "Grandmaster Flash" and Many others I Think I Would and That Was Often Done.......................................


Grandmaster Flash uses re-issues these days for a lot of the breaks he discovered in the first place. His originals are completely worn out.

I saw Jazzy Jay buying bootleg compilations in the famous store Downstairs Records in NYC back in '94.




Thats Prolly TRUE feather.................................


But YO Jazzy Jay IZ My Poeple and HE HAS MO' Records Than GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why Does He Need Any SICK Man VERY SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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By dustbunny35 Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:54 am
beatmakin' and crate diggin' are two differant animals! THE OBJECT OF MAKIN' BEATS IS TO MAKE MUSIC WITH WHATEVER YOU HAVE AVAILABLE TO YOU. THE OJECT OF DIGGIN' IS TO FIND ORIGINAL,PRIVATE PRESS OR RARE RECORDS AS TROPHIES OF YOUR SKILL, KNOWLEDGE AND PERSISTANCE. ME MY SELF I'M A CRATEDIGGER FIRST BEAT MAKER SECOND AS LONG AS I DON'T HURT MYSELF MY FAMILY OR ANY ONE ELSE I'LL GO TO ANY LENGTH TO GET MY HANDS ON SOME DOPE SH1T. I'VE MADE SOME BAD DEALS MADE SOME GOOD DEALS AND DONE SOME MAD CRAZY SHIT FOR SOME WAX. I GOT EVERY DOPE FIEND IN THE CITY LOOKIN FOR RECORDS. IN THE PAST 6-7 YEARS I'VE ONLY BOUGHT 2 RE-ISSUES SYNTHETIC SUB. AND THE EVERYDAY PEOPLE. OTHER THAN THAT IT'S ALL ORIGINAL AND I'VE GOT SOME DOPE SH1T! JUST FOR ME I KEEPS IT O.G. AT FIRST AND STILL FROM TIME TO TIME MY WIFE GETS P O'D BUT SHE KNOWS WHAT IT IS IT'S MY BAD HABIT NO CRACKS NO TREES NO ALCOHOL JUST WAX COFFEE AND NEWPORTS. DON'T MEAN TO BE LONG WINDED BUT JUST A LITTLE STORY TO END THIS SH1T BUT LAST WEEK THE BUILDING THAT USED TO HAVE THE LOCAL RECORD SHOP IN IT BURNED UP SO I DECIDED TO GO IN AND LOOK AROUND IN THE BASEMENT I FOUND THOUSANDS OF RECORDS BUT MOST OF THEM HAD BEEN WATERLOGGED FROM THE FIRE DEPT. SPRAYING THE BUILDING DOWN I CAME OUT WITH A FEW NICE PIECES BUT THAT'S AFTER ME SPEND ABOUT 6 HOURS IN A FOOT OF WATER WITH A FLASH LIGHT DIGGIN' THROUGH A BUNCH OF SH1T. I WISH I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THERE BEFORE THE FIRE.
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By dj e.d.e Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:59 am
DB35 knows whats up man , tell brotha
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By MegaTON Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:14 am
dustbunny35 wrote:beatmakin' and crate diggin' are two differant animals! THE OBJECT OF MAKIN' BEATS IS TO MAKE MUSIC WITH WHATEVER YOU HAVE AVAILABLE TO YOU. THE OJECT OF DIGGIN' IS TO FIND ORIGINAL,PRIVATE PRESS OR RARE RECORDS AS TROPHIES OF YOUR SKILL, KNOWLEDGE AND PERSISTANCE. ME MY SELF I'M A CRATEDIGGER FIRST BEAT MAKER SECOND AS LONG AS I DON'T HURT MYSELF MY FAMILY OR ANY ONE ELSE I'LL GO TO ANY LENGTH TO GET MY HANDS ON SOME DOPE SH1T. I'VE MADE SOME BAD DEALS MADE SOME GOOD DEALS AND DONE SOME MAD CRAZY **** FOR SOME WAX. I GOT EVERY DOPE FIEND IN THE CITY LOOKIN FOR RECORDS. IN THE PAST 6-7 YEARS I'VE ONLY BOUGHT 2 RE-ISSUES SYNTHETIC SUB. AND THE EVERYDAY PEOPLE. OTHER THAN THAT IT'S ALL ORIGINAL AND I'VE GOT SOME DOPE SH1T! JUST FOR ME I KEEPS IT O.G. AT FIRST AND STILL FROM TIME TO TIME MY WIFE GETS P O'D BUT SHE KNOWS WHAT IT IS IT'S MY BAD HABIT NO CRACKS NO TREES NO ALCOHOL JUST WAX COFFEE AND NEWPORTS. DON'T MEAN TO BE LONG WINDED BUT JUST A LITTLE STORY TO END THIS SH1T BUT LAST WEEK THE BUILDING THAT USED TO HAVE THE LOCAL RECORD SHOP IN IT BURNED UP SO I DECIDED TO GO IN AND LOOK AROUND IN THE BASEMENT I FOUND THOUSANDS OF RECORDS BUT MOST OF THEM HAD BEEN WATERLOGGED FROM THE FIRE DEPT. SPRAYING THE BUILDING DOWN I CAME OUT WITH A FEW NICE PIECES BUT THAT'S AFTER ME SPEND ABOUT 6 HOURS IN A FOOT OF WATER WITH A FLASH LIGHT DIGGIN' THROUGH A BUNCH OF SH1T. I WISH I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THERE BEFORE THE FIRE.

official^^^^
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By mpc4000xl Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:59 am
MegaTON wrote:
dustbunny35 wrote:beatmakin' and crate diggin' are two differant animals! THE OBJECT OF MAKIN' BEATS IS TO MAKE MUSIC WITH WHATEVER YOU HAVE AVAILABLE TO YOU. THE OJECT OF DIGGIN' IS TO FIND ORIGINAL,PRIVATE PRESS OR RARE RECORDS AS TROPHIES OF YOUR SKILL, KNOWLEDGE AND PERSISTANCE. ME MY SELF I'M A CRATEDIGGER FIRST BEAT MAKER SECOND AS LONG AS I DON'T HURT MYSELF MY FAMILY OR ANY ONE ELSE I'LL GO TO ANY LENGTH TO GET MY HANDS ON SOME DOPE SH1T. I'VE MADE SOME BAD DEALS MADE SOME GOOD DEALS AND DONE SOME MAD CRAZY **** FOR SOME WAX. I GOT EVERY DOPE FIEND IN THE CITY LOOKIN FOR RECORDS. IN THE PAST 6-7 YEARS I'VE ONLY BOUGHT 2 RE-ISSUES SYNTHETIC SUB. AND THE EVERYDAY PEOPLE. OTHER THAN THAT IT'S ALL ORIGINAL AND I'VE GOT SOME DOPE SH1T! JUST FOR ME I KEEPS IT O.G. AT FIRST AND STILL FROM TIME TO TIME MY WIFE GETS P O'D BUT SHE KNOWS WHAT IT IS IT'S MY BAD HABIT NO CRACKS NO TREES NO ALCOHOL JUST WAX COFFEE AND NEWPORTS. DON'T MEAN TO BE LONG WINDED BUT JUST A LITTLE STORY TO END THIS SH1T BUT LAST WEEK THE BUILDING THAT USED TO HAVE THE LOCAL RECORD SHOP IN IT BURNED UP SO I DECIDED TO GO IN AND LOOK AROUND IN THE BASEMENT I FOUND THOUSANDS OF RECORDS BUT MOST OF THEM HAD BEEN WATERLOGGED FROM THE FIRE DEPT. SPRAYING THE BUILDING DOWN I CAME OUT WITH A FEW NICE PIECES BUT THAT'S AFTER ME SPEND ABOUT 6 HOURS IN A FOOT OF WATER WITH A FLASH LIGHT DIGGIN' THROUGH A BUNCH OF SH1T. I WISH I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THERE BEFORE THE FIRE.

official^^^^




DATz KOOL and Tho' I BOTH DIG it and Respect That U MUST ADMIT THIS IS Niether NECESSARY NOR PRACTICAL FOR MOST.................



AND


YES

DIGGIN' and BEATMAKING AINT THE SAME................................


and NOW WE RETURN TO THE ORIGINAL POST......Lets READ IT...........


MegaTON :
do yall producers sample off break records...im new to this but that sounds mad corny to be doin i can see if its like CARTOON BREAKS or VIDEO GAME THEMES breaks or whatever those are called cuz everyone can get those songs anyway but findin a dusty fingers record and makin a beat is real whack to me ..............



This IS DIRECTED TOWARDS PRODUCERS, SAMPLING, BREAK RECORDS and BEAT MAKING..................



and That IS REAL TALK.............................



AS I SAID IF UR A PURIST I DO RESPECT THAT and PROPz ARE DUE.........


TRUST I HAVE WAR STORIES ALSO.................

FROM 5 n 10 Yr Searches For One Piece, to Buyin So MUCH VINYL that I Had NO Train FARE And Had TO Carry 40+ joints FOR LIKE 8 miles...........
(I tried Hoppin at Like 5 stations ...no dice)

TO Spendin' a LARGE Portion of My College Money and Havin MY Girl and Popz RIFF For Dayz.........

Plus Many MO' that I Won't Speak on...........



BUT IF We ARE TALKIN' BEAT MAKIN'


WHICH WE ARE This IS NOT THE WAY MY YOUNG Padawan.....................................

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