Diggin a waste of cash

got the upmost respect for djs and respect dudes spinning wax i have around 100 records which i sample from the les mccann record was given as an example of a record that i found on-line that was dope that i was unable to find for a good price when actually going out to the shops.

i dont make a livin off music so hence dont feel any reason to confine myself to certain ways of thinking or doing its cheaper and more convenient to download and use sounds found from radio,tv or blogs thats why i mostly use that.

thats got nuthing to do with djing i love watching dude get down on the turntable and drop some ill cuts but i aint got time or cash for that just wanna get some good records to listen to and to sample and wanna make something dope beat-wise.

zilla wrote:

jpeg wrote:see my above post on-line or shop is the same thing just different format.

Your argument makes it very clear you have no respect for djs.

Without a dj:

You have no rapper
You have no producer
You have no reason to own an mpc
You have no history
You have no future
You have no promotion
You have no distribution
You have no dancing
You have no party
You have no rare record blogs

Les McCann is not the pinnacle of beat digging.

What the internet lacks and what you clearly lack is real personal human interaction. Record stores, flea markets, dealers garages, dj’s couches, roadtrips and clubs is where the music that I make was born.

Amen. Jpeg 3:16

I swear you dudes do more moaning than digging!

Just shut up and get out there and dig you snobs. You all sound like miserable old men.

This thread needs locking it's gone on for too long.

i dont see the point in finding a real woman and making love.


this makes no sense when u play a reacord u hear a sound when i play an mp3 i hear a sound so u can sample it.

women is something physical so there is no virtual comparisson u know this funny how peeps mind rationalise and come up with bullshit to justify outdated views.

bare in mind when peeps started sampling the the older generation was against using new technology so its all the same in time u will learn to accpet this, the bottom line is u dont liek that peeps can get access to the same records and sounds that are rare with out looking.

yeah this thread is dead

woman = physical
video = digital representation of woman


record = physical
mp3 = digital representation of record



Just so you can understand the point he was trying to make...

not everything is ripped to mp3 though

i'm not against mp3 digging at all, just sayin'

you may think you have everything at your fingertips, but i have countless rare italian/french libraries that have no mp3 representation, and are ill as fukk

so, i say do both

fasho u cant find everything on-line but u can get some good shit there so may as well grab that shit then if i need something different then will go diggin but right now i aint on putting money on records but yeah find sounds from wherever youtube, tv blogs whatever as long as sound comes out of it then just get sampling and choppin

jpeg wrote: whatever as long as sound comes out of it then just get sampling and choppin

quality makes a difference.......youtube aint exactly hi fi

When I got my first turntable, I couldn't get sound out of the speakers, but the TT still worked fine.

I put a record on, and hit play. No sound came out of the speakers, but I could faintly hear the song coming from the turntable - the actual **** needle moving along the precise grooves - making the noise that I perceived as Pink Floyd or whatever. A needle moving through a groove at 33 and 1/3 RPM replays music with no extra digital compression. That **** blew my mind.

And good records can be had for a dollar? complete with artwork, album info, the ability to use your pitch shifter, and the ability to scratch the sample?

My studio has a lot of stuff in it, but sometimes I turn everything off but my TT and MPC.

Saving pocket money by not digging isn't worth losing the ability to use the classic lineup:
One MPC, One Turntable, and One Mixer. The records are your "expansion packs"

Ok, you sold me. I'm going to keep digging.

Wait a second.........

hif aint always preferable cos peeps prefer some crakly vinyl to some crystal clear cd's look how dirty some of madlib shit is dude is saying himself he'll sample anthing from complations, doom the same sample tv or video, and kayne sample cd's but he went to far sampling drums from another producers records but in a way as long as u program ur own pattern he could argue that.

funny how peeps think ur relying on someone else to do ur diggin is bad when u got some where like sound library records or a1 they choose certain recrods that will appeal to beat digging so thats the same ur relying on them to preselect records that is of a certain level then u pick from that subset.

i remeber the dude in the shop saying that when big producers come in like lord finess, premo, pete rock they actually show them records that would be of interest and them dude have no problem with that cos they know that them dudes listen to so much records they know the kind of stuff they look for.

kon and amir source records for all kinds of producers

same with marley marl some dude brings him records or samples then he flips em so get of ur high horse peeps.

a record store owner knowing what a producer likes is one thing but asking them what do you recommend ,what has drums , what has riffs is another person's taste.

buying records is knowing music knowing lots of music diffrerent genres different artist this only comes with time and diggin,GETTING OUT THERE ANDDOING THE FOOTWORK,DOING THE RESEARCH NOWADAYS WITH THE NET AT YOUR FINGERS.

listen to something other then rap music EXPAND YOUR MIND do you not someone else.

Dog, we've all sampled from a number of sources, yo.. But theres a tangible satisfaction of puttin the needle on the record that you can't get from clicking an icon on your desktop.. Same satisfaction of going to a record store (which is a treat in and of itself), and finding a gem..

All this downloading we been doing over the years has spoiled us from the spirit of what started us from doing this to begin with.. If you know what you lookin for? Who made the hot sh!t? What year it came from? The producers of the record in question? You should never be hesitant to get your hands dirty, bra... I look over at the like 50 or so records I got, and I'm proud of that yo... I WISH there was enough time for me to listen to every second of every song to find every break, every horn.. But knowing my records are over there, I'll always be able to do it..

It's not all about convenience.. The satisfaction of hunting, putting your dollars down, finding that dope break, and knowing YOU got that record? Vinyl? In this digital age of bvllshit? That's worth paying for, and it's priceless, yo..

diggins is good if u wanna spend money and spend time in record shops i did that for 5 years i aint interested in spending money or time on it so i go online.

i listen to the records i sample that expands my understanding of music that includes alot of 70's ost's, soul, jazz, funk, latin.

but what ede pretty much made no sense, there is a pool of available records u choose from that pool.

records in a specialist shops will ensure they stock records that arenet suitable for sampling, as most of the blogs i go to have diggers in mind it is a virtual version of that kind of shop where by most of the records on that site will be of interest to dudes looking for sampling.

obviously if u got time and money to spend u can venture out and find some of these records that have one dope sound on them but i aint interested in doing that now ive did that previously.

so defo pay ur dues go out and dig in the field 1st but after u have learned how to dig and choose records u can apply those same sensibilities on-line.

jpeg wrote:but what ede pretty much made no sense

Made more sense than this...

Dude, we get your point. You're saving a bit of money by illegally downloading MP3s. Welcome to the internet.

If you dug for 5 years and only found 100 records worth keeping: you did it wrong.
I have well over 1000 and I have problems finding a dozen to trade to the shop that I can part with.

Let this thread die, sample whatever you want, noone will call the hip-hop police on you.