Can you bring your MPC to a record shop and sample there?

So......lets say that u get away with it. How are you gonna keep track of what u sampled from where?

why worry about it? if you find a loop you must have/use, you buy the record as a tip of the hat to the original composition

if you find an "open sample" which you'll be chopping and using as multisample, there's no need, just name it after keywords from the track title and move on, move on

some of you guys are damn near superstitious
how do i cost these people anything?

i go to buy records and collect samples, they know me and know what i do
i'll listen in store, snatch up samples of whatever i decide on a whim to listen to, and buy records that i must have from them. i take them home, sample them, and return them for store credit. it's like a "record tax"
i have no problem with whatever they charge me (cheap) and i get excellent music and decent acquaintances

sound is sound, this is FAR less serious an issue than mp3 downloading (also not an issue in my opinion, least for the field i am interested in).
if i am driving anyone out of business by being a peculiar yet regular customer...?

Damn, I'm on the fence on this one. On the one hand, it is important that we end the idea of sound being "owned". I'm definitely in the "Shared musical Heritage" camp. However it is extremely important to support your local record stores, or else you end up with vinyl being on that Lorax tip... Gone forever...

I don't want to imagine a city with no digging opportunities. I'd say, if you are supportive of a local spot and have a good relationship with the owners (Nym), you let them know what you're doing and they approve, then go to town. But the idea of some terrible man in the back of the store, acting shady with a dr. sample, brings to mind images of old ladies at buffets, stuffing salmon fillets in their purses. It's all about intent...

dude leave my mom out of it, i was raised on purse-salmon

No one wants to credit samples and now we dont want to buy the breaks!? This is funny!! But good idea though

Nym wrote:why worry about it? if you find a loop you must have/use, you buy the record as a tip of the hat to the original composition

if you find an "open sample" which you'll be chopping and using as multisample, there's no need, just name it after keywords from the track title and move on, move on

some of you guys are damn near superstitious
how do i cost these people anything?

i go to buy records and collect samples, they know me and know what i do
i'll listen in store, snatch up samples of whatever i decide on a whim to listen to, and buy records that i must have from them. i take them home, sample them, and return them for store credit. it's like a "record tax"
i have no problem with whatever they charge me (cheap) and i get excellent music and decent acquaintances

sound is sound, this is FAR less serious an issue than mp3 downloading (also not an issue in my opinion, least for the field i am interested in).
if i am driving anyone out of business by being a peculiar yet regular customer...?

so what exactly doyou do, bring your portable TT, and a portable sampler/recorder?!?! all i know, is that schit AINT goin down at the record stores i go to, even the ones where im on a first name basis with the storekeeper... you must be in pretty good with the storekeepers or something...

I wouldn't wanna sample at a record store. That's part of the magic...Just skipping through a stack of records making your selection and come home and discover a sample at 4 in the morning...

Nym wrote:dude leave my mom out of it, i was raised on purse-salmon

that explains your mentality on this subject.... and i really think your pullin our legs with this .....cause i don't think any of these store owners are that stupid to do something like this, they spend to much money to just up and give you free samples this is just ridiculous...i'm sorry but i realy don't see any record shop doing this...i would like to talk to these folks at your record store whats the name of the shop , you can PM me if you dont want to let people know about it , i just want to see how long this guy has been in business...believe me i would'nt stoop that low to ask them to sample free samples from them it's not my style. i just want to see how this guy makes money....

how many others do this in the same store ?

haha I couldn't see anyone doing that at a record store in Manchester or Liverpool.

I'm sorry in my opinion the idea is lame. It's acceptable to test that record out on a portable, but to sample it?! The whole point and magic is to buy that record and appreciate it at home.

I know i wouldn't appreciate somebody sampling records in secret at a record store. That'd really piss me off? Why can't you buy that sh*t like everyone else? Cheap ass motherf*cka!

It's unfair as well. Why has that one guy got an advantage over everyone else and is allowed to bring a sampler into the store? If everyone did it then the owner would be out of business.


Plus most record store owner guys are old ass collector dudes with old ass views, so i guess going into their store and sampling their prog would really PISS them off.

wow, you guys are absolutely nuts about this
for pete's sake, you're SAMPLING ALREADY and suddenly you draw the line like "ITS IMMORAL LOL!!!!1111"

downright silly, how many times can you split a single hair?

and no way am i dropping ANY names, public or PM less some Johnny Dollar law-type try to blow my whistle...my deal is far too sweet for that

get this through your thick melons: with me and this store, it's as follows:

option 1 - Nym is a customer, pays record tax, store makes money from him
option 2 - Nym is not a customer, store does not make money from him

is it really that hard to see how dude makes money? if so i pity yalls business....times are too tough for short sighted thinking

hahaha damn thats way gulley! stuffing tuna sandwich's in your fubu sweats pockets and bags of porkrins in your draws hunh? yo im not a big spender on wax and ill take a sample from anything i dont care about ethics on this matter just no drums from hiphop records or things of that sort! and yo i am a cheap dude, i still rock the nikes from 96 and celtics hats from the 92 era screen print throwbacks and catch the local trans every now and again when im not jumping out of planes or scuba diving 2 miles with 60 lbs of gear son i stay gulley in the bush or dessert for days so buffet food mos def gets taken but not in my back pack i walk out with a plate...... hahaha if anything just bring a pad and pen and right down the artists you like and dig em up

Nym wrote:wow, you guys are absolutely nuts about this
for pete's sake, you're SAMPLING ALREADY and suddenly you draw the line like "ITS IMMORAL LOL!!!!1111"

downright silly, how many times can you split a single hair?

and no way am i dropping ANY names, public or PM less some Johnny Dollar law-type try to blow my whistle...my deal is far too sweet for that

get this through your thick melons: with me and this store, it's as follows:

option 1 - Nym is a customer, pays record tax, store makes money from him
option 2 - Nym is not a customer, store does not make money from him

is it really that hard to see how dude makes money? if so i pity yalls business....times are too tough for short sighted thinking

I'm still kind of confused as to how you get down , but anyway it seems like youre more of a sample head than a vinyl head and I guess I can kind of understand that . Since Orpheus is closing there's really only 4 real spots left and Orpheus was the most expensive . The only other one that has some high prices (off Marlboro Pike ) I couldn't see him letting you do that , but who knows ? . My point being the spots here are so cheap , there is no need for that, but then again it all makes sense now , since youre after the samples and not the actual record , I guess you have no need for the record right ?

if i like the record, HELL yes there's reason to have the record: if only for resale value later. there are some records in my collection that are very dear to me, mainly my flamenco, persian, folk, bluegrass and indian shit, rare stuff that you don't see/hear everyday. i buy that in a SECOND.

but usable samples are on EVERY record, and some (like drum breaks, stabs, solo instruments) are just "wild cards." there's no concern about sample clearance since you're not jacking a loop, and often the album as a whole ain't worth owning. if there's a open single crash sample on a TERRIBLE record, what's the point in spending even $2? especially when that means you can spend that $2 on a better record that you will keep and enjoy for years?

i will play a record simply because it is a record and as such it's a big round circle of potentially usable sound. very indiscriminate in my sampling choice

but when my LISTENING choice and SAMPLING choice overlap, that's how i spend at least $75 a month on vinyl (almost entirely at the same store)

oh cunosava: hilarious post, but one point i'd like to raise: cheapskates don't wear Fubu--unless they find em at goodwill.

LOL thats funny right there.. the owner will def complain