Talk and share knowledge on rare records, sources of new samples, vinyl, diggin, etc
By jpeg Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:40 am
How many of u mess with these? I dig thru all records but I used to always ignore the comps now Im taking a more libral approach.

However I still aint messing with stuff like tribe vibes or beanut breaks or any other record that is put together with the (as used by mentality)

whats ur take on comps?
By hoodlord Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:30 am
jpeg wrote:How many of u mess with these?


I mess with them for one reason only, there is this spanish song that I been looking for now for about a minute(maybe 20 or so years). Awhile back, I'm talking well over 15-20 years a friend of mine was at his house playing around making this beat and he busted out with this song that sounded like is was a circus song then BAM this hot beat started playing.

It was on some breakbeat album that he had blackened out the label(thats what people used to do back in the day when they didn't want you to find the same record as them). I went out and bought like every break beat record I could find ofcourse then there wasn't really that many out except for "Ultimate breaks and beats" series.

Who knows maybe it wasn't even a breakbeat album and he just told me it was. Since then I've probably bought just about every breakbeat album there is.

Now there aint nothing wrong with buying breakbeats, hey some people don't got money like that to be spending $15 - $20 on 1 album with maybe 2 hot songs on it at best so they are the next best thing.

The messed up thing about Dusty Fingers that alot of diggers are complaining about and I too kind of agree with them on is that Dusty Fingers actually tells you who used this sample in what song. To me and alot of other people that defeats the whole purpose of digging.

To this day I have not found that record, I heard it once on UGHH.com when they had there little breakbeats section but, there it was listed as "Artist unknown" which of course was BS they just didn't want you to go out looking for this joint.

By jpeg Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:56 pm
I got 3 Dusty Fingers comps and none of them tell me which song was sampled by who, I think u may be referring to the Strictly Breaks comps which focus on the "as used by such and such" scenario.

Inceidently the Dusty fingers, Strictly Breaks and Tribe Vibes are all put out by the same people.
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By dj e.d.e Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:10 pm
i dont see nothing wrong with using these records, i buy comps like these when i can find them,


To me and alot of other people that defeats the whole purpose of digging.


i dont see how this would defeat the purpose of diggin , this would help you out more , because it tells you what to look for and the artist and label
if you dont want to use those beats then dont buy them, but if you know any thing about diggin you use these as tools, you still have to go out and find it thats the diggin part of it, and now you know what your looking for, you dont have to find the same record , search for other records by this artist.
just my 2 cents
peace
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By DJAndreas Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:26 pm
nothing wrong with it at all. Sample what you want, have fun with it, add something new to it. There is this song I want, and I found it on a dusty fingers comp, im gonna get it.

By gordongecko23 Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:36 pm
yeah it is all good, sometimes you wanna re work a sample you have already heard or add something different, or maybe you can find open drum hits or misc. samples. it's all good.
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By tgw617 Thu Oct 07, 2004 1:38 am
i just oreder one of these things yesterday. they seem fine to use in my view. same as samplin other drums its just all put together for you (ok its cheating but i dont have the money or time to search for records with breaks on them)

By hoodlord Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:52 am
jpeg wrote:I got 3 Dusty Fingers comps and none of them tell me which song was sampled by who, I think u may be referring to the Strictly Breaks comps which focus on the "as used by such and such" scenario.



Yep your right its the Strictly Breaks that say used by, I just pulled out the one with the sample that little Kim used .
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By perish Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:25 am
Nice to rock on the tables... but yeah, totally defeat the purpose of the dig. But if you into sampling this type of stuff, why not? But for me digging out the records is half of beat making. But then again I can be a anal purist with the sample thing.

By onumb Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:24 am
I dont understand the need to sample somthing that is so overdone that it makes its way onto a comp anyway. digging for me is about the hunt and finding that one record that you know no one has used...

By jpeg Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:47 am
onumb wrote:I dont understand the need to sample somthing that is so overdone that it makes its way onto a comp anyway. digging for me is about the hunt and finding that one record that you know no one has used...


yo the good thing about Dusty Fingers is he puts 2gether them comps with the intention of providing producers some dope stuff to sample.

ALot of the stuff is out of print, so u would not find it anyhow so why deny urself of good music and good sample material cos u wanna follow a code of ethics, which is geared towards keeping good samples out of the hands of the masses.
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By perish Thu Oct 07, 2004 2:09 pm
jpeg wrote:
onumb wrote:I dont understand the need to sample somthing that is so overdone that it makes its way onto a comp anyway. digging for me is about the hunt and finding that one record that you know no one has used...


yo the good thing about Dusty Fingers is he puts 2gether them comps with the intention of providing producers some dope stuff to sample.

ALot of the stuff is out of print, so u would not find it anyhow so why deny urself of good music and good sample material cos u wanna follow a code of ethics, which is geared towards keeping good samples out of the hands of the masses.


But hat's what digging is all about. having ish no-one else is up on. As for Dustys having stuff no-ones sampled...have you had a good listen to them?

By jpeg Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:00 pm
Diggin is whateva u make it and it tend to mean different things to different people.

For me digging is finding dope samples and inspiring music, so I can then make beats that are inspiring.

To me it seems pointless to obsess over finding sutff that no one else has cos fools have been diggin since probably b4 u was born, plus they got big budgets which allow them to buy records u cant afford.

In short I dont care who else has the same record cos I might sample or flip a sample different to u

By onumb Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:54 pm
budget dosn't matter you just have to dig smarter. I mean so of the best stuff i've ever for was some record of folk songs from argentina(lots of funky pan pipes and ish)and i got it at grage sale for .25 cents. and i usually listen to a record before i buy it as well, no sense buying somthing you can't use..
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By heavysound Fri Oct 08, 2004 3:32 am
Hey HoodLord.....

I know what that record is you have been looking for.

How long? 20 years? MWahahahahahaha.....

You just had to ask the right person.

Los Angeles Negros "Y Volvere"
Too bad cuz I used to have doubles too. Oh well.

By the way.....the Beastie Boys sampled that song.

Peace,
Heavy

.....records are my life ask me anything.....