reducing that 'vinyl' sound...

what's good fam!? yo, ever since i started sampling vinyl i've been spending more time diggin' for samples than actually beat-making! i'm not complainin', i'm just saying'... I'M ADDICTED!!!

anyway, i got a question for all yall chronic crate diggers... i copped a nice find off one of my dad's records, but the sound of the 'vinyl' is just too loud that it's over-powering the sample... i'm thinking the answer is that i gotta cut out a certain frequency... i've been tryin' and tryin' (using sound forge) but haven't been able to achieve it... anybody got any suggestions or tips? am i even going in the right direction?? any help would be great... thanks yall...

WTF? i dont get the question.!
do you mean the static the crackle pop you hear from the record or what ?, whats the vinyl sound you speak of.?

if your trying to remove crackle pop in the sound try to use a record cleaner to clean the record, or try to spray some cleaning solution, theres some tips on the top of this forum for vinyl care. and another thing try to eq the record a bit before sampling it turn down the hi's on the record and then sample it . other then that try to turn down the record level on your MPC so that the sample is not to high , but you can go into your params in the sample field and turn down the volume so it's not so high and then in the param field on the programsparams you can use some filter to cut some of the crackle pop too.

try this out i'm may not be understanding your question right

I think what dude is getting at is turning the way a sample sounds on the OG record into the sound as heard in beats. The trick to this is Compression and most importanly EQUALIZING!

I like to use the Neve 1084 emulation from URS



The left knob is for Hi & Lo cut. This is the path to a sucessfull sound.
What you want to do is rid the Sample of frequencies overlapping with drums and bass. Give it a Place in the mix

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no Compression! it kills dynamic range! sorry had to vent..use compression if u want but I try to stay away from it

thanks for the feedback guys, and my apologies for the confusing question... i'm not trying to remove the 'crackle and pop' completely, i just want to turn it down a bit because it's so much louder than the sample (which is a bass line)... i already read the thread on vinyl care and i did clean the record prior to sampling it... what i was doing was sampling straight into sound forge using sound forge to try and lower the 'crackle and pop'... when i get home from work tonight i'm gonna try what dj e.d.e. suggested... thanks again yall... happy diggin'!!!

you can try Wave plugins. It has a crackle and pop reduction it it. It gets rid of that white noise too.

jigdagod wrote:you can try Wave plugins. It has a crackle and pop reduction it it. It gets rid of that white noise too.

wave plugins huh... aiight aiight, i'mma look into that too... thanks man!

If it's just a bassline you're sampling.....try using the MPC's filter.

itchyvinyl wrote:If it's just a bassline you're sampling.....try using the MPC's filter.

seeeeeen... thanks! i'mma try it when i get home from work...

J-Villa try this i use this solution i make it's
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just make a bacth of this stuff and clean your records with that , also if you can get a contact cleaner with some silicon in it spary a little on a soft towel and rub it on the record and wipe it off and spray this solution to take some of it off and it will cut down on the noise you hear, this is what i do and it works great ,i have some really old ass records with out cover that i dug out a throw away bin and they sound pretty damn good now , just use a reasonable amount not to much use your judgment and you'll hear the difference,
like butter i say.
like butter.

J-Villa wrote:

jigdagod wrote:you can try Wave plugins. It has a crackle and pop reduction it it. It gets rid of that white noise too.

wave plugins huh... aiight aiight, i'mma look into that too... thanks man!

waves is like 1000$

J-Villa wrote:

itchyvinyl wrote:If it's just a bassline you're sampling.....try using the MPC's filter.

seeeeeen... thanks! i'mma try it when i get home from work...

whoooa, shit ... don't go the easy way if there is a longer way, right?

dj e.d.e wrote:J-Villa try this i use this solution i make it's
409
alcohol
water

just make a bacth of this stuff and clean your records with that , also if you can get a contact cleaner with some silicon in it spary a little on a soft towel and rub it on the record and wipe it off and spray this solution to take some of it off and it will cut down on the noise you hear, this is what i do and it works great ,i have some really old ass records with out cover that i dug out a throw away bin and they sound pretty damn good now , just use a reasonable amount not to much use your judgment and you'll hear the difference,
like butter i say.
like butter.

aiight cool, thanks for the tip!

If the Waves bundle is too expensive, Bias soundsoap does a decent job too.
It's standalone too, so you won't need a host to run it.

I often find that the crackle of the vinyl enhances certain frequencies and bits in the sample. I never cut it out, even on really really dirty records. Plus, the crackles often make for interesting rythmical effects to the beat.