Talk and share knowledge on rare records, sources of new samples, vinyl, diggin, etc
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By jonnyscratch Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:51 pm
Went to visit one of my spots today for a little dig only to find he's gone.



Apparently he's operating online now but I miss barging thru the rock collectors and talking to chicks digging house (putting them up on the disco samples).

He had turns and alla dat. How'm I supposed to do that ish online?


A sad day for diggers :lol:



Peace
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By HARRY HUSTLE Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:44 pm
R.I.P.

Another soldier lost in the war...

I send my condolences
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By dj e.d.e Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:14 pm
WORD ^

my shop is in a sruggle it self too. hopefully we will make thruogh this year.
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By risch Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:14 pm
That sucks. I just found an off-the-beaten-path type spot, had probably about 2 thousand records.

Only problem was it seemed like they bought out the unsold salvation army records.

It was cool though I always had a feeling there might be records in this place, sure enough there was when I actually scoped it.
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By jnorth Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:45 pm
sad man. I feel your pain.

I was gutted when Store records and Low Life closed in Sheff. Now we have nothing :cry:

By roxstar Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:41 pm
Lots of them are closing down. One of my main secret spots "mays records" closed about 6 months ago. I have 5 other spots that I goto but whenever I visit them, theres never many people giving them much business. I plan on having some swap meets at my house. Anything that's $1 that you wanna trade. This way your not trying to figure out if your one record is worth 5 of the next persons. You got some crap your don't want, and so do I, so instead of trying to listen to em, just trade. This way, you can leave with a full crate of newness and not spend a dime. I think we all need to do this everywhere. I'm trying to get an internet radio station together with some live video so hopefully y'all can peep out what's going on. Studio sessions, open mics, all that good stuff. :)
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By c0mplex Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:31 pm
roxstar wrote:Lots of them are closing down. One of my main secret spots "mays records" closed about 6 months ago. I have 5 other spots that I goto but whenever I visit them, theres never many people giving them much business.


And u wonder why they closin down and not gettin business??...

roxstar wrote:One of my main secret spots


Maybe thats why? if peeps keep it secret they missin customers and not gettin as much business as they could.. if peeps informed peeps of the spot and told them its good instead of not telling them at all.. im sure they would have more business..

It might be cool to u to have ur "secret" spot, but think of it from the shops perspective on a business level... not good when peeps tryin to eat and pay home bills let alone keep a business running.

By roxstar Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:30 am
"It might be cool to u to have ur "secret" spot, but think of it from the shops perspective on a business level... not good when peeps tryin to eat and pay home bills let alone keep a business running."

These store has been there for over 20 years and more. All the real diggers and collectors know about spots like these.. ain't really a secret.
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By HARRY HUSTLE Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:29 am
yea in general it really seems like a doubled edged sword and obviously we see where it is going...from where it came...

More and More producers rize by the day, actually maybe even more like by the hour....and everyone of them carry the same mindframe...

"SECRET PLACE"

Of course it is great to have your own little outlet of records that many people dont know about...but word of mouth is one of the biggest factors in any profitable business....and thats why we are losing so many record shops by the day or the shops are finally realizing they can just sell online and make just as much if not more...but then in the end that hurts us even more then it did to begin with when maybe if we TOLD all the people we knew the business would continue to make money and all these shops would still be running strong (or atleast stronger) but at the same token if you told everyone about the shops then all the scavengers would be there day and night wiping out all YOUR heat...

so what do you do?...as I said.....Double edged sword...

I personally try and believe in KARMA and that If I put some one on to where to get some records then maybe down the road they will put me on to a place or someone else will....this way the record shops can eat and so can the people that eat off of record shops....

tuff call and I kno everyone is different, but I've always been taught you gotta give to get....but its most def a touchy situation...

that must be the million dollar question...

To tell or not to tell...that IS the question....
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By MegaTON Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:58 am
salvation army up here closed...they shit on goodwill up here but **** it whats history is the past man

By kwality Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:46 am
HARRY HUSTLE wrote:yea in general it really seems like a doubled edged sword and obviously we see where it is going...from where it came...

More and More producers rize by the day, actually maybe even more like by the hour....and everyone of them carry the same mindframe...

"SECRET PLACE"

Of course it is great to have your own little outlet of records that many people dont know about...but word of mouth is one of the biggest factors in any profitable business....and thats why we are losing so many record shops by the day or the shops are finally realizing they can just sell online and make just as much if not more...but then in the end that hurts us even more then it did to begin with when maybe if we TOLD all the people we knew the business would continue to make money and all these shops would still be running strong (or atleast stronger) but at the same token if you told everyone about the shops then all the scavengers would be there day and night wiping out all YOUR heat...

so what do you do?...as I said.....Double edged sword...

I personally try and believe in KARMA and that If I put some one on to where to get some records then maybe down the road they will put me on to a place or someone else will....this way the record shops can eat and so can the people that eat off of record shops....

tuff call and I kno everyone is different, but I've always been taught you gotta give to get....but its most def a touchy situation...

that must be the million dollar question...

To tell or not to tell...that IS the question....


Kinda, but I really don't think too many new producers have "secret spots" - as much as they'd like to think they do. Plus, it's not really our job to promote someones business. Look at e.d.e - he's got his hustle on, and I'm sure he'll pull through these tough times. I have no problem telling people about shops, but those same people shouldn't have a hard time picking up a yellow pages either!

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle of it all - the newbie digger's aren't gonna be spending enough $$$ to sustain a business, and the real heads spend theirs online. Having said that though, many record stores are thriving, and I don't think it's because diggers talk. It's because they offer good records, good service, a good atmosphere and they know how to play the game, online or in real life. I've lost jobs because of the downturn in the music industry, but it's not because people are greedy of their spots, it's because the entire industry has changed, and there's less dollars to go around.

Either way, I hope you get through the hard times e.d.e, you're a good dude! And I'm sorry that your spot closed - but if you were a regular wouldn't he have told you in person on your last visit?
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By c0mplex Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:11 am
kwality wrote:
Kinda, but I really don't think too many new producers have "secret spots" - as much as they'd like to think they do. Plus, it's not really our job to promote someones business


Nah ur right its not, but people treat it like peeps gonna be runnin up gettin all the good sh!t if u let them know a good spot, but everyone digs for somin diff... and givin some one info on a spot is totally diff from givin them info on actual "breaks" and what to look for. Funny thing is so many people i come across that wanna keep theyre spots secret and wont let me know where they been hittin up are WACK diggers and beat makers, and the spot just wasted on them..

Sorry just gotta mention.....

kwality wrote:too many new producers


I wish people would stop referin to beat makers as producers, especially "new producers"... producer and a beat maker TOTALLY different, 99% of beat makers are nuttin but beat makers... it takes a hell of alot more to be a producer.. even if peeps got some of the dopest beats.. it dont make them a producer. It seems to me that as soon as peeps get an mpc or fl studio they start callin themselfs a producer.


kwality wrote:the newbie digger's aren't gonna be spending enough $$$ to sustain a business, and the real heads spend theirs online.


Most real heads especially the old ones, u find tend to stear clear of the net where diggin is concerned.. as diggin is a physical thing and nuttin can beat the physical feelin of hittin a spot and goin through the crates, anyone can type a record name in google or ebay.. and find it... or look on google within 10 seconds of spottin a record on ebay and find info on it... that aint diggin like diggin is actually diggin...

By Sovereign Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:34 pm
Always sad too lose a spot.
The dude who use to be the manager at the local Memory Lane here was a really cool dude.
I paid a $1 reagardless what it was after he got sick and passed things just feel apart.
Now I had to deal with their over pricing and you could no longer go in the back to dig, they started having you ask for what you want and they would pull it if the computer said it was there.
They had basically just the popular stuff up front.
Needless to say I haven't been there in a couple of years.
Still had plenty other spots but hated loosing that one since they had unbelievable inventory.
Never left that spot with less than 50 pieces.

By kwality Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:46 pm
c0mplex wrote:
kwality wrote:
Most real heads especially the old ones, u find tend to stear clear of the net where diggin is concerned.. as diggin is a physical thing and nuttin can beat the physical feelin of hittin a spot and goin through the crates, anyone can type a record name in google or ebay.. and find it... or look on google within 10 seconds of spottin a record on ebay and find info on it... that aint diggin like diggin is actually diggin...


True, but if a head wants his crazy rare stuff, he ain't gonna rely on his local haunts to get it - he'll be scouring ebay like a mofo. Either way, it's a real shame that spots are suffering. I really fear for the future of music if the only stuff people can buy is a ringtone or an mp3.

Oh, and you're right about beatmakers not being producers!