Why so much?

We have a little vinyl meeting at my place on the weekends. A few of us get together, trade wax, put folks up on unknown gems, etc, and my boy made a point that has me wanting to get rid of 90% of my collection. He said,"I don't want anything wack in my collection, everything I touch has to be some hot schyt." Now, I have about 6-7000 records in my collection, but I'm like the vinly roach collector. Stores love to see me because I'll take the crap that no one else wants, I mean, i just want sounds, and a 25 cent record with a hi-hat can sound better than a $100 record with a hi-hat, but I usually play em once.. maybe I'll pick it up again a few years later, but what's the point? Have any of you had to move and take all that crap with you? It's a nightmare!
I find myself now buying records that I want. Dope ish. I got a lot of dope records for a buck, but now I'm diggin for the rare stuff. Not sure if this is a diggin' phase that I'm going through, but it sure is nice to put your hand on ANY record and not think, "this is some bullschyt!" I know I got well over 1000 classical records, and I don't even listen to that stuff. Why keep it? For sampling, do you really need more than (lets say) 20 classical records? Don't they all sound the same anyways?

Classical records are def. not hard to come by, and further no one seems to want them, in terms of trading them, to me they're basically worthless. (don't get me wrong I love classical music, but its my least priority in record collecting)

I got into the pack rat mentality when i first started acquiring wax, but through this forum I realized I probably don't need every big band/ jazz standards collection I find at the thrift store. I think by constantly digging you get an appreciation for what is actually rare, like if there is some album I've never seen by a band I've never heard, I'll def. pick it up. For instance last night I came across a lot of those types of records, picked them up and it turns out after doing my homework that I basically acquired a UK goth-rock/punk lovers collection, not my thing per-se, but I'd def. be able to unload it at the record store to get some trades. In my eyes I'm turning that dollar record into at least $5 credit at the shop.

And lastly, anything you have is potentially 'hot schyt' it's all how you flip it. Stay up.

Digging out good stuff shouldn't be confused with digging out expensive rare records. I mean I think some of the rare records are ass. Most of the stuff that is really expensive and on sites like soulstrut are well known and wanted by collector types. And as Risch put it:

anything you have is potentially 'hot schyt' it's all how you flip it.

I leave the expensive ish to the collectors. I'm a cat who doesn't have that sort of money to blow on one record ($100). I can't eat a record. My main rule when i'm out digging is that unless it's something i REALLY want (or if i'm loaded lol) then i'll spend a lil bit more if the price is right.


Maybe you should hit thrift stores and charity stores instead of the 'record shops'.
Oh and get a portable record deck. It'll save you loads of money and save you wasting $100 on one record too. Best investment i've made

If a reckord is really wack, and only has 1 short sample (lets say a good snare), you could sample it, and put the reckord in the wack crate. Every now and then you could go to a reckord store and trade in/sell your wack crate, and get something else for it.

That's what I have begun thinking about, and that is why I have started to sample single samples and making a library of it on my mac, storing them for later use. Of course I sample everything with my 3000, and then I transfer the samples to my Mac via an USB Floppy drive, and put everything in folders by Sample type/artist/reckord. Every now and then I burn everything I have made on the MP + all samples on CD's or DVDs.

Then I can be prepared to get rid of wack stuff if I'm going to move again.

I really don't dig for records because they are rare, but for all kind of reckords that may have some good music/samples on them. It is not about money and having rear stuff, but having good stuff that I like. But I would of course buy a rare reckord if I found it on a low price while diggin.

And yes, get a portable table! Keep your wack stack as little as possible, because vinyl wheighs a ton!

I've been slowly weeding out the bad from the good records in my collection. I just keep the good music now... I don't give a shit what samples are on it. I don't collect records for beats anymore.

to each his own, diggin to me is looking for records i canplay at a party or music i have heard or havent heard as long as it has good music on it, i dont look for sample records they just fallin to place after a while.

yeah it's been said on here before quality NOT quantity theres a thread we had goin on in here check it out it's prolly back 50- 100 pages, i seen it last nite, just cant remeber the name of the top of my head.

yes moving my collection around is a pain and it's usually the first thing that gets moved, i have moved my collection from SF to SDO and back to SF and then around here i have moved around three or four times and i have to rent a storage space when i did that too, so it gets costly,

i advise you that if you collect you collect only records that you like or are willing to listen to from time to time or else whats the use of collecting them.

i Dj so for me i use alot of records and i dont use that digital crap to play my records.i just wont do it. but thats me, i have been luggin my crates for 28 yrs and i wont have it any other way, i make great tips off the music i have.
i also have classical but i dont have to many you guys prolly have more then i do. but thats not the point.
the digger;s of today have changed and not really understood what it's about . it's about looking for good music , not fpr records just to sample, i can guarantee you that the dudes you listen to dont have records that are just sound for sounds they have records that THEY CAN LISTEN TO THE HOLE record and say thats hot sh!t.
as i said samples fallin to place as you digg for good music rare music .

i knoww it's hard not to want to buy every record you see, i still get that way after 30yrs of doin this sh!t. but i just look for something i havent seen or READ THE LINER NOTES, i cant emphasize it enuff.

@ risch when you ttrade your records do you get equal value or does the store give you so much in credit?
cause it sounds to me that the dealer you dealing with doesnt know his stuff.

I'm turning that dollar record into at least $5 credit

your taken that dude

" anything you have is potentially 'hot schyt' it's all how you flip it."

Definitely, but I'm talking about a good record in terms of simply playing it, and listening. We've all found gems for $1. Bob james, Mongo Saantamaria, Booker T and the MG's, Pharoh Sanders and many others have been found cheap, and they sound better than many other records that I've spent more money on, but when I listen to them, I want more good material in my collection. The real reward from diggin' isn't just making a dope beat with a record, but learning about old artists, and finding amazing material for a dollar or two. I found a Jan (pronounced yun) Akkerman record (with the song streetwalker) and the whole thing is simply amazing! To me, a dope collection of a 500 DOPE records is more than important than having 6000 records that people/stores can't give away. For sampling, it's great, but instead of letting all of it build up, I'm gonna trade them in after I use em. I rarely use the wack stuff twice. Instead, I'll go buy more garbage, and now, I have a HUGE pile worthlessness in my basement.

dj e.d.e wrote:@ risch when you ttrade your records do you get equal value or does the store give you so much in credit?
cause it sounds to me that the dealer you dealing with doesnt know his stuff.

I'm turning that dollar record into at least $5 credit

your taken that dude

Yeah, I know there is a certain day that a certain person is working at this shop that I can maximize my "wack crate's", as deck daddy put it, value.

Last Sun. I turned some Joan Baez, some 'super hits' bubble gum oldies type record, a 'strip-tease' big band type record, and about 10 other thrift store wax into about $30 in credit which got me a quadrophonic "Mysterious traveller" (valued at $30 by goldmines) & Sweetnighter, a Jazz Crusaders "old socks, new shoes", Hancocks "man child" & the impressions "versatile impressions"

I about ran out of the store. There credit system is roughly to give you the 'wholesale' value of the record, whatever it is to that particular person working at the time. You find out that person likes a certain type of music... and well you can figure out where I'm going.

yeah roxstar you know whats up, I'd just try to breakout your collection and try to triage it. then go try to trade the wax at a shop or throw it up on a free ad site for your area (not sure where your at so read that craigslist perhaps), with an ad that says I got 100 records, with "x, y & z" in it for $25 bucks MUST TAKE ALL albums, where x, y & z are somewhat known, and possibly construed as quality albums. that way you get some of that clutter removed, with giving up perhaps a mediocre well known album for about more than at least those 3 albums initially cost you.

"with an ad that says I got 100 records, with "x, y & z" in it for $25 bucks MUST TAKE ALL albums"

Great Idea! $25 per crate! I wouldn't get that price if I went to the store. I'll just mix the classical junk up with the rest of it! haha

exactly, some newb out there will bite on that deal. It's really not that bad, they just get stuck with your clutter.

A friend of mine always puts the records he dont like in plastic bags, and makes shure they looks in good condition and like they have been taken care of. It works on the records stores he trades them in, they offer him more, they think it's worth more or something. A great psychological trick/ effect!

You guys could try it once, see if its worth the cost of the plastic, if the store gives you more $ in return.

Many records I havent liked the last three years or so I have come to like these days, so I'm glad I haven't get rid of any records yet. Some stuff i thought was wack four years ago (including a lot of jazz and soul I thaught was boring back then) I now really love. So it's dangerous letting records go...

I've been buying records longer than I've been making beats, so I have a built-in advantage of only really wanting to buy stuff I want to listen to... Only with the introduction of a MPC into my life did that get a little harder, I found myself looking more for samples or "rarities" or whatever... On the one hand, it's good, because most of my records I really do like... but it's also harder to pare my collection down periodically (which is necessary for me), because I like most of it! Catch-22 type situation...

but yeah, I need to have a sit-down, a heart-to-heart with all my records, one by one, and ask whether it's necessary to keep them... I could probably part with 1 out of every 10 or 15 and not really notice they're gone...

but then, when I have sold a bunch of records in the past, I'm kicking myself for being like, "yeah, sure, you can buy that one too" and then down the road I'm going crazy looking for it, not believing I really sold it...

f'in records...

one you pop, u cant stop

most of the records i buy just fr a few samples only cost £1 or 20p so i can afford to just buy it, sample it and get rid of it (i got some Greek music for 20p lol). Anything that costs any more has to be something i like. It's definetly nice to get something i like, but i i hear a part of a 'wack record' that has potential to be a dope track and it's dirt cheap then i can't refuse.
It's not like i take a chance cos i bring my portable with me and ish is dirt, dirt cheap.