Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
By Hank Zenith Tue Oct 05, 2004 7:17 pm
I am having a problem editing my drum samples. Some of my drum samples, mostly kicks, have too much tail end noise. I am not a great user of technical terms so bare with me. When the kick sample ends it makes a "pop" type noise like there is no smooth decay. Like when a kick is sampled and has some static in it, the kick sound ends and the noise cuts off quick. So, if playing the kick close together is a series of "pops". Anyway, on my old 2000 I would remedy this problem by, on average, turning the decay of the kick to 6. On the 4000 I have tried every setting I could mess with to get rid of the nasty cut off and it doesn't seem to affect a damn thing. I can tell I am messing with the decay but the sound never loses that nasty tail end cut off. I would like to know how to work the decay on the 4000 better so I could get rid of the harsh sample cut offs and keep my kicks, and other sounds, working well. Hopefully this makes sense. Thanks, Hank

By Sean W Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:06 pm
If there is a click at the end of the sample itself, the best way is to use the FADE UP/DOWN option in SAMPLE / EDIT to perform a short fade down at the end of the sample to remove the click form the sample data.

Sean

By mpc_playa Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:29 pm
Sean's right. This is the only way to do this in the MPC4000. The envelope implementation on the MPC4000 is different than earlier MPC's. Hopefully the same decay implementation from earlier MPC's can be added to the MPC4000 in a future update.

:idea: Hey, there's another good suggestion for the list of requested features. It would sure save a lot of work!

By Hank Zenith Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:38 pm
Thanks for the tip. I have been running into problem after problem on the 4k. Not that's it's the 4k's fault, just that it is quite a jump from the 2k. After being on the 2k for 4 years I am still trying to find my old tricks and jumps on the 4k. DO YOU know if os 1.51 or 1.54 has the 16 level not var? I am on 1.60 now but some say I would have a better time with a lower version. Peace, Hank

By renegadebliss Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:42 pm
Hank Zenith wrote:I am on 1.60 now but some say I would have a better time with a lower version. Peace, Hank



Huh... Why would you want to drop down the version that you are using?
What do you mean by better time?
Do you mean have a FUN time, or are you referring to TIMING of different OS's is different?

By Hank Zenith Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:30 am
Bliss, I heard from mpcsounds.com that some problems I've had with sample disks may be remedied by lowering my OS. I've had a problem with sample sets from Syntaur that work well with the 2k not so well with 4k. Supposedly this is being looked at by Akai. So, I just mean a "better time" in reference to "user friendly" especially with sample libraries. Anyway, I do love the 16 level note var and will stay with 1.60 if necessary. Peace
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By Mohammed Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:49 am
Why dont you just use the decay function?? i dont see a problem here

By mpc_playa Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:31 pm
Hank,

I personally would stay with the v1.60 OS. I'm not aware of any changes in the way sample libraries are handled - except improvements. I think most will agree that the problems in the MPC4k were in earlier versions - not v1.60.

Hope this helps -

By Hank Zenith Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:54 pm
Thanks Playa, I will ride this out with 1.60 and figure out new tricks. MOHAMMED, I don't understand what you mean by the decay feature. I am talking about 16 level "note Variation" and the other problem was with the decay not doing much with my sounds which was solved by Sean W and mpc-playa. If you know of something we are missing I would love to hear it. Thanks man, HZ
Bysp4166 Thu Oct 07, 2004 4:36 pm
I think what our friend here wants to know is if there is a better way to edit the fade out of a sample. On the mpc 200xl this was a bit more precise than the mpc 4000. The mpc 4000 does have a fade in/out feature but the only problem with the fade in/out feautre on the mpc 4000, is that it's permanent.