MPC4000 MidiClock Timing video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgbV4LHyIT8

So I finally did the test to see how accurate my setup is. I think I finally have a full grasp of the MPC4000. Simple setup of the MPC running three devices. I did this earlier running 7 devices and it worked well also but I didn't record it.
I need to learn how to edit a bit better. The camera used was an Olympus LS20M. The Olympus' are fantastic cameras and audio recorders.
Let me know if there are any other testing means that you want to see while I have it all set up.
Cheers,
Ian

you have alooooot of stuff crammed in that place!

Great, now do it in Protools!!!

Nah, just f'n with you homie... But I have had ProTools do some weird -ish with MIDI before...

Kool little setup there Ian. That multitrack looks fun to use with its own controls/ faders..
Seeing u offered for any requests I will.
Could you do me a favour and program one big (at least) 48 bar sequence
Into the 4000 . Can you make them 16th notes.
Once done, could you record that huge sequence into the multritrack and check out how the notes line up now to the grid at the very end of the sequence ( eg: 48 th bar).

In ur initial test you 'looped' one sequence in the 4000 then recorded that correct??

@ U3, okay I will try the 48 bar sequence you suggested tonight.

Yes in my video above I just did a simple 4 measure loop.
This will be good because I need to know the limits of my setup.
Cheers,
ian

Good on you for going to the trouble of making a video - I have my mpc controlling a shit load of outboard midi gear. It never ever slips out of time.

The major midi problem for me has been when the mpc has been synced to protools or vice versa master or slave slave or master midi clock or mtc - This has never ever worked properly for me and I've completely given up on working that way.

I just build everything on the mpc and then track it in 16 tracks at once using the 8 outs from the mpc into a digi 003 and a frontier tango for another 8 tracks for the midi instruments. This way all the tracks are locked together over 8 bars - (I just hit record in protools then play on the mpc - without the two being midi locked).

All my more complex arranging of patterns/song structure etc is now all done in protools. where it is fast to move stuff around and mute sections on and off anyhow.

before i had a studio desk and the 8 outs i would try and solo say the high hats - and then have protools and the mpc midi sunc then record first the high hats. Then create a new track in protools and then record the kick drum etc etc - The whole beat would end up in there - but would sound rubbish....used to pull my hair out over this. So I'm feeling the peeps who this midi issue is still **** with.

Winge done.....

It works perfectly. I did more than 48 bars and it was in sync. I am having major video trouble or I would have posted it by now. I can't seem to edit my .mov video file in windows live movie maker. The weird thing is that I was able to do it with the first video.
I will hopefully get this up tomorrow.
Peace
Ian

Thanks alot for doing that Ian, dont worry about putting the vid up if its too hard i believe you dude

The VS2000 was set at the same BPM the 4000 was running at obviously, in order for you to be able to line it all up to the grid, correct?

Im impressed with your test. I feel much better knowing that.
I think the problems most people are experiencing are when they try and sync the 4000 to a daw or vice versa, i dont know i havent tried this, but at least we know the 4000's internal midi clock is accurate and doing the right thing.

Here is the video of the test between the MPC 4000 (master midiclock and MMC) and my digital mixer Roland VS2000cd(slave). The VS2000 is set to the same bpm as the MPC, which helps match the gridlines.
If the MPC is the master it works perfectly. When I tried with the Fantom S88 as a master(not in the video) it has a push and pull sound to it which is not pleasant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjTvDNB6yiI

Cheers,
Ian