Do I need my MPC 4000 anymore?

1) the amount of edit pages? irrelevant

2) the amount of sound editing parameters available on the 4000 vs. the k2600? YES, this one but be careful because if you dont know what you are talkin about you will get your ass handed to you by these people

1) I commented on the amount of edit pages because Wax111 talked about how user un-frendly the interface was. I agree that the 4000's interface has a much more OPENLY layed out but that doesnt mean that the k2600 is POORLY laid out in its own right. Just takes alil longer to figure out where everything is.

2) Ok, well be gentle with me, looks like you've got ur teeth and claws out. I dont claim to be an expert and I havent even gone through either manual completly yet, Ive only had it 2 weeks.

But trust me the amount of sh*t you can do is overwhelming. Hey maybe the mpc 4000 can do the same exact things, but they sure as hell aren't telling you how to do them in their manual.

Maybe Wax111 can go more in depth on this one since he said he had one for a few years.

no claws
im only here to learn
and yes it is kinda hard to give a real honest opiniobn of gear when you dont know them both well enoygh to compare.

and yes akai needs to redo the damn manual because so much has been changed and added it could easily be mistaken as somthing else based on the manual alone

I have to have my 4k even though I use NI's Kontakt samplers
NI's Kontakt has not only a 32bit sampling engine but it does thinggs like automatic time stretch scaled out from high to low just as you would turn a sample into a keygroup in the 4k. bt I still need the 4k to sketch everything out, to take presure of of my computers cpu, progaming track mutes, and so on Kontakt cant do that shyt so i gottah keep both

i started out with a k2000 & a mpc60 an since then have ran through numerous instruments,but now i'm back to the future with a 4k & a k2500r.any keyboard with any mpc works great,a lot of times we get these impulse's to buy gear without asking do i really need it,from having just about all the mp's(- the 3000) there's nothing else on earth like the mp,the sequencer,the sampler,the editing....i'll put the 4k up against anything on the market! i love my k2500's flex but it aint no mp. my advice is keep both,unless this is your first mp an now that you have the k2600 your just starting to pay more attention to it because it's new an feeding your gear appetite or the mp is just not for you...but bebfore you sell it you better do some serious thinking cause once you leave our mpc family we have to vote to get you back in.

unless this is your first mp an now that you have the k2600 your just starting to pay more attention to it because it's new

Yeah i think you've hit the nail on the head rookie. Thanks to everyone for their input.

I never planed on selling the 4000 right away, its just that as I started using the k2600 more and more it started inspiring me more then the MPC has in the last couple of months. Ive layed down more tracks within the last 2 weeks on the k2600 then I have in the last 2 months with the 4000.

Your also right that this is the 1st MPC ive ever owned, Im only very recently being able to afford this kind of gear, after about 10 years of wanting some badly. I started playing guitar 10 years ago because its way cheaper to make music with acoustic instruments then it is with electronic ones.

I'll be hanging on to the 4000 for awhile longer while i get the rest of my studio up set up.

I've seen messages like this sooo often, but the truth is (all together now) it's not the gear, but the individual. I haven't heard one track from anyone that utilizes the mpc4000's many filters. Where's the real-time modulation with the q-link knobs? Why are so many people buying the latest and greatest machines to make the dirtiest music? Most people that buy mpc are making Hip-hop, techno, R&B, etc. If you wanna make dirty music, you have to use the nice grungy equipment. I don't have filters in my 2000XL, but you hear em.. My mpc can do real time modulation, but it's there.. I can make my tracks sound clean, dirty, or both if needed. For whatever reason why you bought the k2600, use it for that sole purpose. If you want to replace the MPC, do it, you have to make things easy for yourself. I LOVE my XL, but if I bought a 4000 and figured out how to work it, there would be no question about if I should sell the XL. If I couldn't work the 4000, but figured out how to work and XL, I would keep the XL, but I wouldn't be pondering about.. hmm.. maybe I should keep the 4000 for it's effects.. that's a waste of money. So, with that being said, sell your 4000, and get the pad thingies that akai sells, and have the best of both worlds. Pads to knock the beats out with, and the k2600 for sequencing/sample editing... and when you sell the 4k, you can get another $1600 in your pocket.

roxstar wrote:I've seen messages like this sooo often, but the truth is (all together now) it's not the gear, but the individual. I haven't heard one track from anyone that utilizes the mpc4000's many filters. Where's the real-time modulation with the q-link knobs? Why are so many people buying the latest and greatest machines to make the dirtiest music? Most people that buy mpc are making Hip-hop, techno, R&B, etc. If you wanna make dirty music, you have to use the nice grungy equipment. I don't have filters in my 2000XL, but you hear em.. My mpc can do real time modulation, but it's there.. I can make my tracks sound clean, dirty, or both if needed. For whatever reason why you bought the k2600, use it for that sole purpose. If you want to replace the MPC, do it, you have to make things easy for yourself. I LOVE my XL, but if I bought a 4000 and figured out how to work it, there would be no question about if I should sell the XL. If I couldn't work the 4000, but figured out how to work and XL, I would keep the XL, but I wouldn't be pondering about.. hmm.. maybe I should keep the 4000 for it's effects.. that's a waste of money. So, with that being said, sell your 4000, and get the pad thingies that akai sells, and have the best of both worlds. Pads to knock the beats out with, and the k2600 for sequencing/sample editing... and when you sell the 4k, you can get another $1600 in your pocket.

Exactly, just be the master of one, forget all the other gear. To much G.A.S. arrests one`s development anyway.

roxstar wrote: I haven't heard one track from anyone that utilizes the mpc4000's many filters. Where's the real-time modulation with the q-link knobs? Why are so many people buying the latest and greatest machines to make the dirtiest music?

I begg your pardon sir but I ve used everything I could find on this thing in one song or another. You may have thought I was using a synth or some shit but most of the time it was me PHUCKIN the SHYT out of a sample to get what I need mainly because I didnt have money to buy that shit untill recently. before a couple of months ago all I had was my proteus 2000, vs-1880, and the mpc4k. Before january of 2004 I had the mpc2k classic. and as far as music goes I do rock, classical, movie score,blues, rap, and a lil bit of countreeee

Sell the 4000 and stop giving Akai users a bad name. With the lack of drum pads you'll have both hands free for W-A-N-K-I-N-G.