By Blue Haze
Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:58 pm
What are some basic techniques to create basslines?
i feel limited just sampling loops. what else can i do to create a more personalized bass sound?
Wed Apr 30, 2003 6:58 pm
KoolSha178
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1.you can find a dude who can play bass, mic him up, sample into your computer, and load em into the MPC.
2.on the MP, you can just load samples, play with the settings, attack, decay, velocity, use the note variation slider to achieve a more naturual sound, set the bass pad to mono for greater control, mix up different notes of the same bass sound, etc...
just some quick ideas that i have used in the past. have fun.
Wed Apr 30, 2003 7:31 pm
TheHypeArchetype
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This is a good question. I'm also curious.
I have an Alesis Nanobass, but regardless, i'm curious as to what are some other, more convetional, unique, methods of acquiring basslines.
Carry on...............
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Thu May 01, 2003 8:20 am
homershines
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Bass lines
I'm a visual artist who uses sound, so I am no expert. But in my research over the years, I have found that lots of folk build basslines from their kick drum patterns. There a few articles on this online. I just can't think of any titles. But search around. And you can actually copy your kick pattern and then replace it with a bass sound. Then tune each strike where you like it. Add or subtract a few more and you have a bassline. Of course, real musicians will give better details, but this is a start.
Peace and happy hunting.
Homershines
Thu May 01, 2003 8:49 am
freddy fresh
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try taking drum loops and then FILTERING (dialing the jog dial to lower the freq. number ) until you only hear the LOW end resonating)
Killer bass made this way
or sample PURE BASS as in SYNEWAVES... this is the purest form of bass
the 2000 and 2xl have sufficient filters to get dope ass bass from almost any drum loop
Fri May 02, 2003 7:16 am
TheHypeArchetype
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quote:
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Originally posted by freddy fresh:
try taking drum loops and then FILTERING (dialing the jog dial to lower the freq. number ) until you only hear the LOW end resonating)
Killer bass made this way
or sample PURE BASS as in SYNEWAVES... this is the purest form of bass
the 2000 and 2xl have sufficient filters to get dope ass bass from almost any drum loop
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, i just did this for the first time last night. (i usually just use a module, but i wanted to give this a shot) I sampled a 1 bar drum loop, assigned my NV slider to it, and just shifted the filter around til i got the right sound. It ended up being just slightly above the lowest setting. And i'll tell you what, i got myself a MEAN-a*s baslsine!
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Fri May 02, 2003 7:46 am
freddy fresh
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nother cool trick for yall producers
if your having trouble finding a bassline to PERFECTLY and I mean PERFECTLY match your drum loop
sample the same loop twice
now filter down one as mentioned above till you only hear the low end
now track them side by side and your bassline plays exact same as loop
he he he
Fri May 02, 2003 1:18 pm
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quote:
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Originally posted by freddy fresh:
nother cool trick for yall producers
if your having trouble finding a bassline to PERFECTLY and I mean PERFECTLY match your drum loop
sample the same loop twice
now filter down one as mentioned above till you only hear the low end
now track them side by side and your bassline plays exact same as loop
he he he
------------------------------------------------------------------------
thaz what domino did in that online video
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The digger culture is gone, but even so, it's really all about how you do your beats. If you're wack and you're using a keyboard,nobody wants to hear that. If you're a dope producer, then that's a different story."-Pete Rock
Fri May 02, 2003 5:26 pm
stinktank
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quote:
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Originally posted by freddy fresh:
nother cool trick for yall producers
if your having trouble finding a bassline to PERFECTLY and I mean PERFECTLY match your drum loop
sample the same loop twice
now filter down one as mentioned above till you only hear the low end
now track them side by side and your bassline plays exact same as loop
he he he
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"sample the same loop twice"-- in other words, assign the same sample to two different pads.
Fri May 02, 2003 7:29 pm
brainwashcloth
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in other words, dont waste memory space by samplining it twice, just assign it to 2 different pads with different settings.
Sat May 03, 2003 3:25 am
TheHypeArchetype
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Or just sample 1, good, clean bar. Assign it to one pad (filter it way down of course), and use the BPM-match feature to match it to the rest of your sequence.
(For those who don't know (and i'm sure you all do) The BPM match is under the timestretch screen under the edit menu in the trim screen)
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Sat May 03, 2003 5:03 am
the finger prince
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Ghetto Bass
This is a good little trick,
in REC mode on MPC,
pull out the Master Out RCA cord on the mixer, and just touch the metal of the RCA outs on the mixer, (just pull out the cords until the tips are in a bit, just touching the metal) and you will get that nasty noise of unpluged equipment, But if you sample that and chop it up you can get some great bass sounds.
Very Loud and Very low bass sounds
Just mess around a bit and you can get different noises.
I have got some really wicked Bass sounds this way.
The Finger Prince
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Fri Jun 20, 2003 12:31 am
Dr.Foo
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word. I like to grab a cello, violin or other string sample, then chop it up, assign it to pads, then filter the heck out of it till its low and dark, then play with the attack settings for the pad until it sounds more like someon plucking it (like a bass) then use that.
It dont always work, but when it does it sounds cool.
Fri Jun 20, 2003 6:33 am
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loop an 808 kick, freq to 0, resonance to about 3, set the decay to 5 or 6 to give it a little tail end (if it's looped, otherwise leave decay alone)
Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:54 am
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i feel limited just sampling loops. what else can i do to create a more personalized bass sound?
Wed Apr 30, 2003 6:58 pm
KoolSha178
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1.you can find a dude who can play bass, mic him up, sample into your computer, and load em into the MPC.
2.on the MP, you can just load samples, play with the settings, attack, decay, velocity, use the note variation slider to achieve a more naturual sound, set the bass pad to mono for greater control, mix up different notes of the same bass sound, etc...
just some quick ideas that i have used in the past. have fun.
Wed Apr 30, 2003 7:31 pm
TheHypeArchetype
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This is a good question. I'm also curious.
I have an Alesis Nanobass, but regardless, i'm curious as to what are some other, more convetional, unique, methods of acquiring basslines.
Carry on...............
_________________
"And Rodney King...... Ain't NEVER felt the beat like this"
Thu May 01, 2003 8:20 am
homershines
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Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Posts: 455
Location: philadelphia
Bass lines
I'm a visual artist who uses sound, so I am no expert. But in my research over the years, I have found that lots of folk build basslines from their kick drum patterns. There a few articles on this online. I just can't think of any titles. But search around. And you can actually copy your kick pattern and then replace it with a bass sound. Then tune each strike where you like it. Add or subtract a few more and you have a bassline. Of course, real musicians will give better details, but this is a start.
Peace and happy hunting.
Homershines
Thu May 01, 2003 8:49 am
freddy fresh
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try taking drum loops and then FILTERING (dialing the jog dial to lower the freq. number ) until you only hear the LOW end resonating)
Killer bass made this way
or sample PURE BASS as in SYNEWAVES... this is the purest form of bass
the 2000 and 2xl have sufficient filters to get dope ass bass from almost any drum loop
Fri May 02, 2003 7:16 am
TheHypeArchetype
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quote:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by freddy fresh:
try taking drum loops and then FILTERING (dialing the jog dial to lower the freq. number ) until you only hear the LOW end resonating)
Killer bass made this way
or sample PURE BASS as in SYNEWAVES... this is the purest form of bass
the 2000 and 2xl have sufficient filters to get dope ass bass from almost any drum loop
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, i just did this for the first time last night. (i usually just use a module, but i wanted to give this a shot) I sampled a 1 bar drum loop, assigned my NV slider to it, and just shifted the filter around til i got the right sound. It ended up being just slightly above the lowest setting. And i'll tell you what, i got myself a MEAN-a*s baslsine!
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"And Rodney King...... Ain't NEVER felt the beat like this"
Fri May 02, 2003 7:46 am
freddy fresh
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nother cool trick for yall producers
if your having trouble finding a bassline to PERFECTLY and I mean PERFECTLY match your drum loop
sample the same loop twice
now filter down one as mentioned above till you only hear the low end
now track them side by side and your bassline plays exact same as loop
he he he
Fri May 02, 2003 1:18 pm
Prah_860_
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quote:
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Originally posted by freddy fresh:
nother cool trick for yall producers
if your having trouble finding a bassline to PERFECTLY and I mean PERFECTLY match your drum loop
sample the same loop twice
now filter down one as mentioned above till you only hear the low end
now track them side by side and your bassline plays exact same as loop
he he he
------------------------------------------------------------------------
thaz what domino did in that online video
_________________
know dat!!
The digger culture is gone, but even so, it's really all about how you do your beats. If you're wack and you're using a keyboard,nobody wants to hear that. If you're a dope producer, then that's a different story."-Pete Rock
Fri May 02, 2003 5:26 pm
stinktank
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quote:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by freddy fresh:
nother cool trick for yall producers
if your having trouble finding a bassline to PERFECTLY and I mean PERFECTLY match your drum loop
sample the same loop twice
now filter down one as mentioned above till you only hear the low end
now track them side by side and your bassline plays exact same as loop
he he he
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"sample the same loop twice"-- in other words, assign the same sample to two different pads.
Fri May 02, 2003 7:29 pm
brainwashcloth
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Location: Houston, TX
in other words, dont waste memory space by samplining it twice, just assign it to 2 different pads with different settings.
Sat May 03, 2003 3:25 am
TheHypeArchetype
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Or just sample 1, good, clean bar. Assign it to one pad (filter it way down of course), and use the BPM-match feature to match it to the rest of your sequence.
(For those who don't know (and i'm sure you all do) The BPM match is under the timestretch screen under the edit menu in the trim screen)
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Sat May 03, 2003 5:03 am
the finger prince
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This is a good little trick,
in REC mode on MPC,
pull out the Master Out RCA cord on the mixer, and just touch the metal of the RCA outs on the mixer, (just pull out the cords until the tips are in a bit, just touching the metal) and you will get that nasty noise of unpluged equipment, But if you sample that and chop it up you can get some great bass sounds.
Very Loud and Very low bass sounds
Just mess around a bit and you can get different noises.
I have got some really wicked Bass sounds this way.
The Finger Prince
www.circleresearch.com
[/url]
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Last edited by the finger prince on Fri Jun 20, 2003 11:19 pm; edited 1 time in total
Fri Jun 20, 2003 12:31 am
Dr.Foo
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word. I like to grab a cello, violin or other string sample, then chop it up, assign it to pads, then filter the heck out of it till its low and dark, then play with the attack settings for the pad until it sounds more like someon plucking it (like a bass) then use that.
It dont always work, but when it does it sounds cool.
Fri Jun 20, 2003 6:33 am
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loop an 808 kick, freq to 0, resonance to about 3, set the decay to 5 or 6 to give it a little tail end (if it's looped, otherwise leave decay alone)
Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:54 am
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