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I am a recent software convert so I feel ya bro. On the MPC topic if you don't know by now you probably never will.

No disrespect intended.. Understand that.

It's not even real that you compare that feature on the mentioned keyboards to that same feature on Protools. C'mon now.

Wow..

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pro tools can handle large audio files because it streams them from disk, mpc reads the files from memory.
Overpriced you say? .. I dont know ... the mpc3000 was even more expensive when it came out.

I have large wavs in some of my songs and no problem really.. the mpc is a bit slow with large programs.. but only if you´re in the program window while the song or sequence is playing.
Loading and saving takes a while with the new OS.

Overall, I think the MPC4000 is worth the money. They are only 1900, for a new one, over here.

damn potna u need 2 cool out, u want cats to give u info u need to get ya mind right first...anyways the processing speed is no where near as fast as on... say, an emac or sumthin but it aint hella slow neither. Basically close ya eyes, count to 2 and ya done. The sampler on the 4k is raw as ****..IMO and most here will tell u the same. Honestly though, most people **** w/ an mpc for the feel of the machine itself more than anything. It's an ill ass machine that can accomplish many thing if u know what ur doing and I'm learning shit all the time w/ this beast. It's worth the dough to me so that price tag shit is irrelevant. I bought it cuz I loved my 2kxl and knew the 4k was goin' be a monsta. Anyways get it or dont. It's seems like you dont need it if you got all that shit u say got already anyways. the effects offa the eps, the sound of the 3k and processing w/ protools???

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L. Tombstone wrote:I appreciate the info. Ain't trying to be hotheaded, but when cats play me like a newbie........

BTW how DARE I suggest that an MPC should have the speed of a computer!!! That's laughs!!!

I haven't played you like a newbie.

Yeah, how dare you?!? No really though..

there is a big big difference between a 2000/3000 and a 4000 - the whole way the interface works is different... there are so many more possibilities with the presence of multis/qlinks etc... it's not even worth comparing the differences because there are far too many... it is not as a sampler that it stands out, it is it's sequencing/workstation capabilities that crap all over everything else

edit - what do you mean a 2000 can't handle 32 meg of ram - i always had my ram full when i had a 2000xl and never ever ran into problems.

machina

it's funny to me how caught up on 'speed' people get. then the say "it allows me to work more intuitively....or, i don't have to wait for the f*Ck'n......"...or whatever their reasoning/justification is.

i've worked on every iteration of the MPC line, and i really dunno what CPU speed or speed in general has to do with anything. the most classic artist, writing the most classic sh*t......didn't seem to stop them. nor did being 'slowed' done be the 'lack' modern features detour them from the goal..>making good music. i'm not just talking about classic sh*t made on the MPC/ASR/SP1200, i mean all the way back to Beatles, Hendrix, Axelrod, JB's....ya get the idea.

if you want Protools then use Protools. if you want to use a software sampler then do it. use whatever you want. go ahead and buy the fastest quickest ...(fill in the blank)...you can buy, but what does it matter...it doesn't matter! the MPC4000 is a phenomal machine and piece hardware. i have yet to ever think "man, if my MPC4k was as fast as the computer i'd get sooo much more done".

the MPC4k is worth the loot spent to me. i don't find it slow and i really don't think the computer and MPC can be compared. my 4k is rock solid, no hickups, no virus's, no probs and flawless in its tasks. my computer works great and also does what it's supposed to...most of the time. my computer is no MPC and my MPC is no computer.

i'm not tryin' to beef or get a flame thread going here. i don't especially wanna visit the what is better 'Software VS. Hardware' battle. use whatever ya like. the 4k is hot and is leaps in bounds faster and deeper then any of the previous MPC's. is it better? well that's up to the user and his/her personal preferences. all the MPC's bare their own merits. the 4k is Akai's flagship MPC. since getting the 4k i've stepped farther away from the computer and i'm not just sitting here twiddling my thumbs waiting for it hurry up and process either. hell my favorite MPC is still the MPC60! but, that's a different beast.

different strokes for different folks.

peace and i hope you're able to find what fits you. but i'd suggest looking else where if 'speed' is your top priority. it's been a long while since Akai has been steps ahead of the competition and a leader of innovation, but the MPC fanaticism continues....and i know why.

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L. Tombstone wrote:I appreciate the info. Ain't trying to be hotheaded, but when cats play me like a newbie........Anyway, so it is improved but not like a dedicated CPU?? Interesting. I suppose there is only so much you can pack into a compact stand-alone workstation. If you care to elaborate, what prompted your decision to cop a 4000 vs. a 2000 or 3000?? They all do the same thing really...can't stop trippin off that 24/96 sh** though not a lot of samplers have that.

BTW how DARE I suggest that an MPC should have the speed of a computer!!! That's laughs!!!

i agree with u
boght my mpc4k
its got alot of limitations (from wat ive seen so far)
but iama make do with it.

L. Tombstone wrote:if you sample something that's 30 sec. to 1 min. long, it takes forever to chop it down because the sampler has to 'playback' erything in memory before you can edit. That is the beauty of Protools, it can more than handle any amount of data you input on the strength of the CPU and processor speed. Is this something they fixed on the 4000?? Cause I like all the added bells and whistles (CD burner, memory, etc.), but if it can't handle data better than the older sh** I kinda don't see the point, other than the 24/96 resolution. What's the deal???

Can you please explain this better. The terminology that you have used is very confusing. I have been completely confused by this thread.
On my MPC 4000, when I load up a sample it does not "playback" until I tell it to.

My MPC does a GREAT job of playing when it i supposed to (when I sequence or hit a pad)
and NOT playing when I don't want it to (when I don't sequence or hit a pad).

What exactly do you mean by "playback"??????? "Playback" can mean so many things.
Please define.

... In regards to what is the point of the an MPC 4000: Here is 1 point.

The Point is if you want a HARDWARE INSTRUMENT that is NOT under the spell of Bill Gates or Steve Jobs (i.e; constantly doing PAID updates that then require you to make PAID updates to your music software), that allows me to be up and sequencing within
5 seconds from Idea to having my machine on and recording my idea.


Dave

L. Tombstone wrote: Better off with a Titanium laptop and an Mbox than that garbage.

If you think you might be, then you might be. Probably want to check out that route.
An MPC is NOT a personal computer. A Computer is NOT an MPC.



Dave