Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
By Shah Wed Mar 10, 2004 6:57 pm
Hey All,

I sold my 2000xl months ago to get a blue Mpc4000plus. Well last night I got sick of waiting for the blue 4000 to drop so I went to the Guitar Center armed with a quote from Zzounds. I purchased a factory sealed 4000plus 80 gig drive for $2400 after tax.

The thing is I could return it and wait another month to get a blue one from Sweetwater. But the best they could do is $2800.

What do you all thing? I am happy to find I can get rock bottom prices at guitar center. Also...akai is not shipping any more of the white ones.

By turnstile Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:51 pm
Do you really care that much about the color of the unit???

There are no other differences between the two. I can't understand your logic...

By LabWorkz Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:09 pm
I think the white 4k wit black pads looks better then the blue one anywayz! Just keep the 4k Plus u got homie! :wink:
By Shah Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:04 pm
Thanks for your responses. As long as there are no hardware unpdates that coincide with the color change, i am pleased.

One last question...i know with the usb connection i can drag file from the mpc to my computer...can i also drag them from my computer to the MPC?

Also it comes with the IBDwatever card...can i install the 8 analogue out card along with it ..or is it one or the other?

lemme know
:)
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By dudum Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:16 pm
yes you can drag from the desktop to akai AND akai to desktop.

the IB4D board doesn't conflict with either the ADAT or ANALOG output boards.

the unit has 2 specific slots in the rear for those cards.

so no prob!
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By Reveal Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:21 pm
hey shah,
u can drag all files supported by the 4000 to and from ur pc/mac using ak.sys,go to akaipro.com and check it out. and dont forget to make sure u have the the latest OS / docs.

U can install the eight output/adat/spdif together.

.
ya see?
By Shah Thu Mar 11, 2004 3:09 pm
Thanks Dedum and Reveal

I opened the box last night and got into it. Here are some quick obeservations after 4 years of using an mpc2000xl. Basically a great deal of the idiomatic information architecture of the physical UI and OS UI from the MPC2000xl was inherited by the 4000. The benefit of this is that users, like myself, who upgraded from legacy models can sequence right out of the box and also sample after a quick glance at the manual. Briefly, I did find that trimming samples was a bit frustrating because the OS requires the looping points to fall within the start and end trim points. While this may be a logical user design choice by the developers, it requires some trial and error where the manual does not explicitly call out this requirement.

Also, as a result of the sample rate & bit depth option...my samples sound so good. That's about as far as I got last night.

I plan to use Akaisys and attempt the q-link features tonight. Thank you
Shah
By lacasanostrarecords.com Thu Mar 11, 2004 3:59 pm
Shah wrote:Thanks Dedum and Reveal

I opened the box last night and got into it. Here are some quick obeservations after 4 years of using an mpc2000xl. Basically a great deal of the idiomatic information architecture of the physical UI and OS UI from the MPC2000xl was inherited by the 4000. The benefit of this is that users, like myself, who upgraded from legacy models can sequence right out of the box and also sample after a quick glance at the manual. Briefly, I did find that trimming samples was a bit frustrating because the OS requires the looping points to fall within the start and end trim points. While this may be a logical user design choice by the developers, it requires some trial and error where the manual does not explicitly call out this requirement.

Also, as a result of the sample rate & bit depth option...my samples sound so good. That's about as far as I got last night.

I plan to use Akaisys and attempt the q-link features tonight. Thank you
Shah
And make sure you install OS 1.51 right away or you wont be as happy as you should be with this unit!!!! :)

By MAD T Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:18 pm
Shah wrote:Thanks Dedum and Reveal

I opened the box last night and got into it. Here are some quick obeservations after 4 years of using an mpc2000xl. Basically a great deal of the idiomatic information architecture of the physical UI and OS UI from the MPC2000xl was inherited by the 4000. The benefit of this is that users, like myself, who upgraded from legacy models can sequence right out of the box and also sample after a quick glance at the manual.


Shah


Just a little comment for prospective buyers....
I just picked up an MPC4000 and I have never used any MPC in my life. I have experience with the E-MU Ultra, ASR-X samplers, and the Yam Rm1x and a bunch of different software packages. I must say that I found this sampler dead easy to use!!!!

I started to get a little worried because I saw many posts saying that it takes a while to get used to the OS. I know I don't know all of the advanced features, but so far I have been able to find out how get what I want done with very little help from the manual or reference guide. So if you're thinking of copping one, don't hesitate....it ain't too hard....well maybe if the only thing you know is fruity loops, then you might have some problems.
By Shah Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:21 pm
MAD T wrote:
Shah wrote:Thanks Dedum and Reveal

I opened the box last night and got into it. Here are some quick obeservations after 4 years of using an mpc2000xl. Basically a great deal of the idiomatic information architecture of the physical UI and OS UI from the MPC2000xl was inherited by the 4000. The benefit of this is that users, like myself, who upgraded from legacy models can sequence right out of the box and also sample after a quick glance at the manual.


Shah


Just a little comment for prospective buyers....
I just picked up an MPC4000 and I have never used any MPC in my life. I have experience with the E-MU Ultra, ASR-X samplers, and the Yam Rm1x and a bunch of different software packages. I must say that I found this sampler dead easy to use!!!!

I started to get a little worried because I saw many posts saying that it takes a while to get used to the OS. I know I don't know all of the advanced features, but so far I have been able to find out how get what I want done with very little help from the manual or reference guide. So if you're thinking of copping one, don't hesitate....it ain't too hard....well maybe if the only thing you know is fruity loops, then you might have some problems.




Mad T, thanks for calling that out. There is no reason why a new user can't do everything I attempted and more.

S
By Shah Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:22 pm
lacasanostrarecords.com wrote:
Shah wrote:Thanks Dedum and Reveal

I opened the box last night and got into it. Here are some quick obeservations after 4 years of using an mpc2000xl. Basically a great deal of the idiomatic information architecture of the physical UI and OS UI from the MPC2000xl was inherited by the 4000. The benefit of this is that users, like myself, who upgraded from legacy models can sequence right out of the box and also sample after a quick glance at the manual. Briefly, I did find that trimming samples was a bit frustrating because the OS requires the looping points to fall within the start and end trim points. While this may be a logical user design choice by the developers, it requires some trial and error where the manual does not explicitly call out this requirement.



Also, as a result of the sample rate & bit depth option...my samples sound so good. That's about as far as I got last night.

I plan to use Akaisys and attempt the q-link features tonight. Thank you
Shah
And make sure you install OS 1.51 right away or you wont be as happy as you should be with this unit!!!! :)




Ok, I will, I promise :)
S
By lacasanostrarecords.com Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:55 pm
Shah wrote:
lacasanostrarecords.com wrote:
Shah wrote:Thanks Dedum and Reveal

I opened the box last night and got into it. Here are some quick obeservations after 4 years of using an mpc2000xl. Basically a great deal of the idiomatic information architecture of the physical UI and OS UI from the MPC2000xl was inherited by the 4000. The benefit of this is that users, like myself, who upgraded from legacy models can sequence right out of the box and also sample after a quick glance at the manual. Briefly, I did find that trimming samples was a bit frustrating because the OS requires the looping points to fall within the start and end trim points. While this may be a logical user design choice by the developers, it requires some trial and error where the manual does not explicitly call out this requirement.



Also, as a result of the sample rate & bit depth option...my samples sound so good. That's about as far as I got last night.

I plan to use Akaisys and attempt the q-link features tonight. Thank you
Shah
And make sure you install OS 1.51 right away or you wont be as happy as you should be with this unit!!!! :)




Ok, I will, I promise :)
S


Thats what Im talkin bout....youre gonna fall in love with the part n pad mixers, 16 pad tuning and the tightness of midi syncing all midi outs....it seems like a new machine with 1.51 os in it....I'm glad Akai is seeing more business nowadays with the release of the 1000...they can now put more cash into developing this unit to completion..sample audition, etc etc....When money is tight they gots to cutback..that's why the 4000 got a bad rep..not to mention they released in the middle of a recession with a bad OS because they tried to recoup theri initial investment in the machine....to put it simple we almost lost AkaiPro to bankruptcy like so many other companies in our field over the past few years.......if they ever get bought out i hope it is Yamaha!!!

By Shah Thu Mar 11, 2004 6:21 pm
one other reason to get the latest OS is that the note repeat function doesnt seem to work on 1.45

one other thing...i played a access virus kb when i baught the MPC...i want one!
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By trupro Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:02 pm
Um, yes can anyone CONFIRM that there are 'bugs' fixed on the blue model?
Maybe it's the OS update.

I agree with that other thing:

The MPC series is, in my humble opinion, the EASIEST
OS TO USE IN THE WORLD, with regard to electronic instrument graphic user interfaces.

A good measure of your technical prowess is, if you can't
do at least the BASICS on an MPC, without calling your homeboy every two hours for help, you need to seriously consider
learning the THEORY behind GUIs in general, and check your
original amount of common sense.

I would blame your parents.

By MAD T Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:20 pm
The Blue operates exactly the same as the White model. It's all about what OS you're running. 1.51 fixes most of the major bugs on both machines.
There might be some slight internal differences on the inside of the machine, but it might be real minor things you wouldn't even notice. It's very common for manufacturers to update parts, but this should not affect performance in any way.