Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
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By jonathan morris Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:09 pm
i was just in song mode and i went to load something. my screen got stuck for a second while switching screens and when it got to the load page there were no files. on top of that, it started making a very unhealthy sound that i've never heard before. kind of like a scanning sound with a click at the end. i turned it off and tried to restart it but it's doing the same thing....saying "scanning for discs" and not making it past the first screen with the akai logo.

does anyone know what the problem might be?

can i fix it myself with new parts or should i send it to someone to fix it?

i had a faulty hard drive when i first got the 4k, had to send it to pasedena, ca to be fixed, but that was 7 years ago and before akai was bought out by numark. i've never heard it make a sound like it makes now.

fu(k!
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By Lampdog Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:46 pm
Hard drives can also get the click of death. They don't last forever, like on average life expectancy of maybe 50-70,000 hours or some shyt. 7 years is a long time.
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By Lampdog Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:03 pm
jonathan morris wrote:so have i lost everything on it?

How am I supposed to know that, lol.

Take it to a hard drive recovery place somewhere, find one, see what they say.


jonathan morris wrote:can i get a new one and install it myself?

Did you do any research on it yet? I'm positive I've seen answers in
the forums already for this one already big dog.
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By Dr. Lecter Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:31 pm
Lampdog wrote:Hard drives can also get the click of death. They don't last forever, like on average life expectancy of maybe 50-70,000 hours or some shyt. 7 years is a long time.


Shiii!t..didn't know that,i was aware of that on the zip disks but daaam'..i have to find a week off beats to start backing up stuff.
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By Lampdog Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:56 pm
I know the feeling of a hard drive crashing on you, I KNOW IT WELL, lmao.

Hard drives can die out to but since they are an enclosed, USUALLY don't move around alot and are hard precision platters, they live and last MUCH longer than more mobile removable media, ie, sloppys, zips, etc (they are still disks though)

Like I said, I've had the click of death on hard drives before, but I rode the hard drives until the wheels fell off, lol.
One hard drive just recently started acting stupid with me (clicking and coughing and stuff) but it's been about 10 years though.

Yet and still, backups however you get it done is ALWAYS a good idea. Even though most people back up right to another hard drive, that back up hard drive isn't used as much as the primary hd so it lasts alot longer ya know.

Norton Ghost, I swear by it, has never done me wrong, but any method of a full back up good. Incremental backups are the smaller brother to that, meaning you back up only the newest files since your last full back up. Most backup software can select your newest files according to whatever date you specify, backup software these days is not hard to figure out at all.
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By jonathan morris Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:45 am
it's probably a good thing that it happened today. i actually had a session scheduled tonight for a new project (2 beats started for it, i was flipping through stuff for the last 2 months getting ready to start the project). so new that it wasn't a big deal for me to put it off for a week or two, and not an issue to lose those 2 beats. it would have been more of an inconvenience in a month or so.

in a way i'm looking at it as a clean slate. you can probably imagine the amount of b.s. that accumulates over a 7 year period. lol.

thanks for responses.
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By Lampdog Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:55 am
jonathan morris wrote: in a way i'm looking at it as a clean slate. you can probably imagine the amount of b.s. that accumulates over a 7 year period. lol.

Yeah, 50gb+ samples later (and peeps still find that as a reason to brag, dorks, lol.)
and u end spending way too much time organizing them and stuff.

I have deleted more samples than I have used because of that. It got to be that I was filling up hard drive space JUST BECAUSE. I narrowed it down to only a few gigs of my faves and did away with all the rest. A clean slate seems more work for some peeps but it can force you to come brand new and actually you get better I think. Like that one thread dudes were saying that after a slump they come back and it's like magic, their shyt is just better. That's happened to me several times before, clean slate, slump, not caring and all of a sudden it happens and it's magic, there is no explanation for it at all.
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By gertie Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:21 am
im starting to have the same thing with my hard drive...it still works and all but recently every now and then when i press on load or save the mpc freezes. i guess its only a matter of time till this drive dies
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By Grouphome Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:58 am
one thing you gotta remember when backing up to another harddrive.
Don't leave that harddrive unplugged/unused for a long period.
I've had 2 harddrives die on me cause off mechanics jamming up (guy at harddrive company told me it was some sort of mechanical grease)
By kvmoore Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:01 am
gertie wrote:im starting to have the same thing with my hard drive...it still works and all but recently every now and then when i press on load or save the mpc freezes. i guess its only a matter of time till this drive dies


I know this is an old thread but I dug it up because I just had this happen to me last weekend!!! I think it all started Saturday morning. I was up overnight working on a beat and when it came time to save, the MPC4000 said, "NAW" (screen freezes). So I tried to access the memory through the computer using Aksys but Aksys said "NAW" (program freezes and gives error). However, the good news is if I gave the MPC4000 a minute or unplug the USB or reboot the PC or something, the screen would unfreeze for a brief moment. It did eventually go to the save screen and was stuck there for a minute. Somehow, during the periods it got unstuck I able to select a different drive (my external USB hard drive) to save my beat. So luckily I was able to finally get my MPC4000 to say "Go on ahead and save your beat and stop bugging me" after selecting the external USB drive and all of the freezing stopped the the machine worked normally again. At the time, I wasn't sure what the problem was because it never acted like this before but I was able to finally save the beat.

Later on that following Monday, I was working on the 4000 again and made another beat when all of a sudden I heard a clicking noise coming from the MPC!!!!! I pressed the save screen to save the beat and the MPC said "Nope I don't feel like it today. STOP BUGGING ME!!!" (screen freezes). I called on Aksys but Aksys said "NAW" So I couldn't access the memory or the contents of the hard drive. However, I was more concerned about that clicking noise and began thinking, "That hard drive is fixing to fail!!!!!! I gotta back-up this s**t). So I went into panic mode figuring if it keeps clicking like that too much longer, I could lose everything. Luckily, I didn't care that much about the beat I was working on and considered it B.S. and shut down the machine giving up the effort to save the beat. I left the machine off for about a couple of hours hoping the clicking would not start back and I would regain full access to the hard drive when I boot it back up. When I powered the 4000 up later, I immediately hit the save button and the internal hard drive contents came up without hesitation. Then I launched Aksys on the PC and gained access to the MPC4000's hard drive. At that moment, I immediately backed everything up that is on the MPC4000's hard drive to my computer. That was definitely a close call because I think that click was the so-called "Click of Death" sound that previous posters have mentioned here.

I consider myself very fortunate. However, I need to get that hard drive replaced because it's going to fail sooner or later (BTW this is a white MPC4000 I bought used 8 years ago). Until I remove and replace that internal hard drive, I'm going to immediately go to the save screen and select the external USB drive before I start working on a new beat. That way, the MPC won't keep trying to access the internal drive and give me flak when it comes time to save.

However, I did learn to recognize early signs of hard disk failure (freezing screens, sluggish performance, slow access, and clicking noises) as a result of a bad experience in 2004. That year, my computer's hard drive DID crash, I DID lose a few beats, and I DID get pissed!!!!

Good times Huh?!!!!
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By Lampdog Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:17 am
There was a thread somewhere where peeps used ssd instrad of old school 80pin ide. U can use either type. Click of death is no bueno. For now stay with usb/aksys until you get another internal hhd.